Poll Question

[Aufan 1983]

I have been wanting to start a poll section but haven't did it yet. So I'll throw a few out from time to time.

[Grizzums]

Where are all the Obama folks...??? (P.S. - Im not one of them....nor am I a McCain supporter - I don't toe party lines)...

Perhaps an endorsement (http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/975/1/147/)(well, probably as close as one will get) from the Ol' US Communist Party ought to bring out all those Obama supporters....perhaps....

The cpusa does say in another article that they do NOT (http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/938/1/147/)endorse BO and give further explantions about their feelings...

I do not think for one second that BO is a communist, but I do believe that they (the cpusa members) are sympathetic to his messages. Personally, I think both of the major two candidates are frauds and do not subscribe to either of the two major party's current platforms....and NO, I do not play the "lesser evil" game any longer.

Edit- Hmm...whom might the lone "other" voter be...? :)

Good Luck.

[3DCyclone]

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There is another choice that should be added to this Poll! :rotfl:

[BadThad]

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There is another choice that should be added to this Poll! :rotfl:

OMG.....ROFL LOLOLOLOLOLOL :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Grizzums]

News3Online is your breaking news center (http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=6ODO2gZ188G2dA46bz80)

There is another choice that should be added to this Poll! :rotfl:

ROFLMAO :lol:

Thumbs up....love the granny tat....:biggrin:

[Grizzums]

As a Libertarian/Conservative - actually I'll proudly admit to being a bit of a cross between a paleoconservative and classical liberal - I'm quite pleased with Sarah Palin 8-| as the Neo-Rethuglican VP pick. I do not fully subscribe to her views on abortion or gay rights as I think these things are best left to the states to decide nor do I subscribe to her feelings on creationism but overall, I'm very pleased with the decision. Yes, as some may have already put the puzzle together, I'm a Dr. Paul guy and I was an advocate for a Paul/ Palin (or Sanford or Powell) ticket last fall but that pipe dream didn't work out this go round....

...I can't find myself pulling the lever for a McCain/Palin ticket, but I hope Palin gets some good exposure with this cycle and does well enough to put her in a better position for the cycles to come.

At least this election will be a bit more interesting from a dramatical point of view. A rally for the republic this week will be nice (no, not the Republican Convention, but the alternate one :)) but my thoughts and prayers will be with those down in the gulf region instead.

YouTube - Alaska Governor Palin's Address to the AIP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iCDBIAde8&feature=related)

[Aufan 1983]

As a Libertarian/Conservative - actually I'll proudly admit to being a bit of a cross between a paleoconservative and classical liberal - I'm quite pleased with Sarah Palin 8-| as the Neo-Rethuglican VP pick. I do not fully subscribe to her views on abortion or gay rights as I think these things are best left to the states to decide nor do I subscribe to her feelings on creationism but overall, I'm very pleased with the decision. Yes, as some may have already put the puzzle together, I'm a Dr. Paul guy and I was an advocate for a Paul/ Palin (or Sanford or Powell) ticket last fall but that pipe dream didn't work out this go round....

...I can't find myself pulling the lever for a McCain/Palin ticket, but I hope Palin gets some good exposure with this cycle and does well enough to put her in a better position for the cycles to come.

At least this election will be a bit more interesting from a dramatical point of view. A rally for the republic this week will be nice (no, not the Republican Convention, but the alternate one :)) but my thoughts and prayers will be with those down in the gulf region instead.

YouTube - Alaska Governor Palin's Address to the AIP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4iCDBIAde8&feature=related)

I agree that while the his choice was a surprise it seems to be a good one. I like Palin for the exact reasons you disagree with her on.....:rotfl: I will vote McCain just to vote against Obama but I'm not overly happy to vote at all this time.

[Aufan 1983]

On a side note Grizz,

The media is trying their best to elect their Golden child Obama and its getting crazy. I just thought they were in love with Bill Clinton but they have taken it to a new level. I have never seen a candidate get this type of media coverage.

[Grizzums]

I agree that while the his choice was a surprise it seems to be a good one. I like Palin for the exact reasons you disagree with her on.....:rotfl: I will vote McCain just to vote against Obama but I'm not overly happy to vote at all this time.

More power to you brother. :) I am a "states rights" person when it comes to delicate issues like these. I just do not think "morality" issues need to be legislated from the federal bench, so to speak. I do not believe I am righteous enough to parlay my personal beliefs on the nation as a whole, its just that simple for me. I am also a "big tent" thinker in that I am open to further discussions on all of these types of difficult issues. I am principled, but try to remain open. I do my best (even given my personal biases) to keep my heels from digging into partisan trenches too deep, ya know?

What do I "principally" stick to? My contract with my government, the U.S. Constitution, and the process to amend it if my country - as a republic and in a democratic fashion - elects to do so. <-- My hope is just that the citizens of this country can get out of having an "R" or a "D" or a "G" or a "C" or a "S" or an "L" besides their name and learn to think critically, and independantly of eachother, the political parties and of their state run media.

[sg1efc]

I'm curious what people think about Palin's pregnant unwed daughter? Personally I'm wondering if the daughter ever considered having an abortion. :~/

[BadThad]

I'm curious what people think about Palin's pregnant unwed daughter? Personally I'm wondering if the daughter ever considered having an abortion. :~/

Doesn't bother me, hey, we can only guide our children to do the right things. What they ultimately end up doing is up to them and beyond our control.

[BadThad]

I am for Palin. The thing I've learned about politics, if you don't dig your feet in and hold on to your principles, you will aways lose. When dealing with others that don't hold your principles, when you compromise, they always win. For me, matters of principle outway whether its a Fed or state right..

I hear you there brother! At least define your principles and stick to them come hell or high water. Right or wrong, I admire those that adhere to what they believe in and don't flip-flop.

[Grizzums]

I am for Palin. The thing I've learned about politics, if you don't dig your feet in and hold on to your principles, you will aways lose. When dealing with others that don't hold your principles, when you compromise, they always win. For me, matters of principle outway whether its a Fed or state right..

"I do my best (even given my personal biases) to keep my heels from digging into partisan trenches too deep..."

I am ALL for sticking to principles...that's why I will not pull the lever for the Republican ticket even tho I am a conservative and classical liberal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberal). What I am saying is that I don't put partisanship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partisanship) before principle. As far as states rights policies vs federal policies...I don't feel the need to force my principles on society as a whole (the US), I prefer to allow a conduit for others to have the freedom to have theirs
(principles) if they differ from mine...and live by them. With that principle in mind, I feel states rights policies vs federal policies is very important in certain issues, especially in those involving morality. My principles apparently differ from yours (to whatever degree), that seems natural.

[Grizzums]

I'm curious what people think about Palin's pregnant unwed daughter? Personally I'm wondering if the daughter ever considered having an abortion. :~/

I think it's none of our business.

I think the nastiness of the lunatic fringe left blogs and comments by the fanatical left (btw - I think there is a fanatical right as well) will come back to haunt Obama and his campaign. (I'm referring to the nasty rumors that led to the Palin's having to make public, private matters). It was certainly smart for the Obama camp to come out publicly and denounce this sort of disgusting politics but I am not naive, it's politics.....unfortunately. I would be concerned if I was an Obama supporter because of the behavior of the fringe left, especially if they keep this sort of thing up, delving into personal matters. I also think if they keep harping on Gov. Palin about having 5 kids, a newborn with Down Syn, and a 17 year old daughter that's pregnant and then insinuate or question whether or not she should be VP because of that...I think that would be a disastrous mistake. The left would then get a thorough education in the subject of the blow back effect.

The (current) conservative base is on board and highly energized by Gov. Palin and this revolution will not damper that enthusiasm, I don't think. Many are thrilled with this gamble, excuse me, pick....I'm one of them. She is the best, realistically, I think a person with my ideologies could hope for on the Republican ticket <-- I just hope she doesn't get poisonedand this open letter to Gov. Palin (http://theconcom.blogspot.com/2008/08/open-letter-to-sarah-palin-from.html)expresses how I feel on that matter better than I probably could.

Politics....

The number one attribute in seeking public office is authenticity (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13062.html) and that personal connection ("relating to" factor) that a candidate makes with the electorate. The Palin family, imo, appears to have this as their number one attribute, that should frighten the Dimwits and is probably one of the reasons why the campaign has been tiptoeing around the whole Palin VP news and the lunatic left has been so quick to be so nasty ever since the news, pulling wild, hateful conspiracy theories out of nowhere. Remember, the cliche fits....perception is reality. IMO, It will not take much for the general perception to shift to "they are wrongly beating her up" and have the strong sympathy effect coming in play especially with the authenticity factor.

Blow Back Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence))

The inherent genes in the media for sensationalism and rating seeking will magnify this effect.

I would have NEVER predicted this at any point over the past year until now, Mcain will win this election in a shocker....you heard it here. :) I've always been a bit of a contrarian. :biggrin:

[3DCyclone]

I think it's none of our business.

I think the nastiness of the lunatic fringe left blogs and comments by the fanatical left (btw - I think there is a fanatical right as well) will come back to haunt Obama and his campaign. (I'm referring to the nasty rumors that led to the Palin's having to make public, private matters). It was certainly smart for the Obama camp to come out publicly and denounce this sort of disgusting politics but I am not naive, it's politics.....unfortunately. I would be concerned if I was an Obama supporter because of the behavior of the fringe left, especially if they keep this sort of thing up, delving into personal matters. I also think if they keep harping on Gov. Palin about having 5 kids, a newborn with Down Syn, and a 17 year old daughter that's pregnant and then insinuate or question whether or not she should be VP because of that...I think that would be a disastrous mistake. The left would then get a thorough education in the subject of the blow back effect.

The (current) conservative base is on board and highly energized by Gov. Palin and this revolution will not damper that enthusiasm, I don't think. Many are thrilled with this gamble, excuse me, pick....I'm one of them. She is the best, realistically, I think a person with my ideologies could hope for on the Republican ticket <-- I just hope she doesn't get poisonedand this open letter to Gov. Palin (http://theconcom.blogspot.com/2008/08/open-letter-to-sarah-palin-from.html)expresses how I feel on that matter better than I probably could.

Politics....

The number one attribute in seeking public office is authenticity (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13062.html) and that personal connection ("relating to" factor) that a candidate makes with the electorate. The Palin family, imo, appears to have this as their number one attribute, that should frighten the Dimwits and is probably one of the reasons why the campaign has been tiptoeing around the whole Palin VP news and the lunatic left has been so quick to be so nasty ever since the news, pulling wild, hateful conspiracy theories out of nowhere. Remember, the cliche fits....perception is reality. IMO, It will not take much for the general perception to shift to "they are wrongly beating her up" and have the strong sympathy effect coming in play especially with the authenticity factor.

Blow Back Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence))

The inherent genes in the media for sensationalism and rating seeking will magnify this effect.

I would have NEVER predicted this at any point over the past year until now, Mcain will win this election in a shocker....you heard it here. :) I've always been a bit of a contrarian. :biggrin:

I second that prediction! Right On Grizz!

[Grizzums]

I think it's none of our business.

I think the nastiness of the lunatic fringe left blogs and comments by the fanatical left (btw - I think there is a fanatical right as well) will come back to haunt Obama and his campaign. (I'm referring to the nasty rumors that led to the Palin's having to make public, private matters). It was certainly smart for the Obama camp to come out publicly and denounce this sort of disgusting politics but I am not naive, it's politics.....unfortunately. I would be concerned if I was an Obama supporter because of the behavior of the fringe left, especially if they keep this sort of thing up, delving into personal matters. I also think if they keep harping on Gov. Palin about having 5 kids, a newborn with Down Syn, and a 17 year old daughter that's pregnant and then insinuate or question whether or not she should be VP because of that...I think that would be a disastrous mistake. The left would then get a thorough education in the subject of the blow back effect.

The (current) conservative base is on board and highly energized by Gov. Palin and this revolution will not damper that enthusiasm, I don't think. Many are thrilled with this gamble, excuse me, pick....I'm one of them. She is the best, realistically, I think a person with my ideologies could hope for on the Republican ticket <-- I just hope she doesn't get poisonedand this open letter to Gov. Palin (http://theconcom.blogspot.com/2008/08/open-letter-to-sarah-palin-from.html)expresses how I feel on that matter better than I probably could.

Politics....

The number one attribute in seeking public office is authenticity (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13062.html) and that personal connection ("relating to" factor) that a candidate makes with the electorate. The Palin family, imo, appears to have this as their number one attribute, that should frighten the Dimwits and is probably one of the reasons why the campaign has been tiptoeing around the whole Palin VP news and the lunatic left has been so quick to be so nasty ever since the news, pulling wild, hateful conspiracy theories out of nowhere. Remember, the cliche fits....perception is reality. IMO, It will not take much for the general perception to shift to "they are wrongly beating her up" and have the strong sympathy effect coming in play especially with the authenticity factor.

Blow Back Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence))

The inherent genes in the media for sensationalism and rating seeking will magnify this effect.

I would have NEVER predicted this at any point over the past year until now, Mcain will win this election in a shocker....you heard it here. :) I've always been a bit of a contrarian. :biggrin:

Bumpin my own post...

This stock looks to make new highs (http://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com&contractId=376101)...I'd go long. Decent short? (https://www.intrade.com/#http://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/closingPricesForm.jsp?tradeURL=https://www.intrade.com&contractId=409933)

Good Luck.