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daiello
07-31-2007, 04:13 PM
VSTR- Valuesetters Inc
Outstanding Shares: 32,250,001
Float: 4,000,000
ValueSetters Considers Strategic Merger Offer
PHOENIX, Apr 16, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ValueSetters Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: VSTR) is pleased to announce that management has been approached, and is seriously considering a merger with a privately held company, that management believes will add synergistic value to its business model. Management is in the first stage of negotiations, and a due diligence period must follow any definitive agreement, if one is ultimately executed.
Sean Lee, Chairman of ValueSetters, stated: "The Company is excited that a potential merger has surfaced. Our current business model is designed to increase shareholder value through revenue growth and possible acquisitions. We are delighted with this prospect and are assessing all our potential options."
There are no guarantees at this time that a transaction will occur, just that the company has been approached with a potential merger offer. Management will communicate and update the shareholders through press releases as appropriate. Currently, preliminary negotiations are in progress.
About ValueSetters
ValueSetters Inc. (www.valuesetters.com) is a Wholesale Business Network whereby vendors and merchants come together to create a completely new distribution channel. ValueSetters' target market is Non-Store Retailers, Miscellaneous Store Retailers, and Convenience Stores that combined for annual sales of over $790 Billion in 2004(1). The company's mission is to help its member retailers succeed by providing products and support services that enable profitability.
August Newsletter
We still continue with our merger and as stated last month we are still on target to complete it in this month. I would like to share with you the fact that we believe that this merger has a very synergistic effect. The company we are merging with is a customer of ours in that we supply a large portion of their product. They are member based and thus bring to us a membership base that exceeds 7000 members. We know that many members are retailers both online and ?brick and mortar? stores. We assure you that this base of retailers will be of benefit to all our vendors and thus encourage all of you to pass on this opportunity to any supply base that you may know.
The new vendors added this month are Olympus Flags offering a full store of flags and flag poles. United weaver rugs have a great assortment of home decorator, novelty and designer rugs. Stack On is a great vendor for storage, safes and toolboxes. We also have added to our installed product a great line of installable fencing from Plastival.
As we go forward we will advise you the moment the merger is complete.
Sean Lee
CEO ValueSetters
Aufan 1983
07-31-2007, 09:17 PM
I watched this one a little today and it went up 80% on 77,000 shares traded. If the bid - ask tightens this could move in a huge way. I would like to jump in but that spread kills me .025 x .045.
Evil-Eye
08-01-2007, 09:40 AM
It's starting to move.
Klipper22
08-01-2007, 09:41 AM
Moving nicely again to day so far. Nice play, Dan.
Evil-Eye
08-01-2007, 12:04 PM
It turned ugly.....:eek:
Tau44
08-01-2007, 02:27 PM
Yeah,
I looked at it earlier too. I thought i would wait a little bit before i jumped in after yesterdays' mistake on aesk. I never got in. its ugly now your right.
Aufan 1983
08-01-2007, 02:41 PM
Na.... its not ugly its just waiting....lol
I'm going to hold my 05 and 08's for a few days and see if this merger happens. If it does this will rocket. If not we will play again.
Evil-Eye
08-01-2007, 02:52 PM
Na.... its not ugly its just waiting....lol
I'm going to hold my 05 and 08's for a few days and see if this merger happens. If it does this will rocket. If not we will play again.
I hope....your last name isn't Lebed is it? jk :D
Aufan 1983
08-01-2007, 03:14 PM
I hope....your last name isn't Lebed is it? jk :D
:D Close....lol
I'm telling you with the ease this moves both ways it will get crazy in the near future
fz4fun
08-01-2007, 03:27 PM
After flopping around on and off all day like a flounder on the sand, I finally just said screw it and jumped on this little puppy @ 0.05 ---let's go baby give me a quick double here :D
Aufan 1983
08-01-2007, 03:40 PM
After flopping around on and off all day like a flounder on the sand, I finally just said screw it and jumped on this little puppy @ 0.05 ---let's go baby give me a quick double here :D
Nice..... I'm liking this one. Rumors flying and a low float :D
daiello
08-01-2007, 03:41 PM
Glad i pointed this out. You guys could have been in at .02/.03/.04.
But .05 is not bad, and .08 shouldn't be bad.
Selling has dried up, since its a low floater people panic and sell quick. Record high volume and there wont be much profit taking tomorrow morning since only the strong hands are in now.
Good luck to us.
Klipper22
08-01-2007, 03:47 PM
Glad i pointed this out. You guys could have been in at .02/.03/.04.
But .05 is not bad, and .08 shouldn't be bad.
Selling has dried up, since its a low floater people panic and sell quick. Record high volume and there wont be much profit taking tomorrow morning since only the strong hands are in now.
Good luck to us.
I didn hit it today, Dai. In at .05 right off the bat and out at .08 around 15 minutes later. lol. I'll take 60% any day of the week. Thanks for this. I'll be keeping an eye out for re-entry.
Aufan 1983
08-01-2007, 04:04 PM
Glad i pointed this out. You guys could have been in at .02/.03/.04.
But .05 is not bad, and .08 shouldn't be bad.
Selling has dried up, since its a low floater people panic and sell quick. Record high volume and there wont be much profit taking tomorrow morning since only the strong hands are in now.
Good luck to us.
I got most of my shares @ 05 and I guess I bought a few of Klippers at 08....lol
Thanks for the tip. I think its slowly getting noticed. I would have caught it earlier but was too busy talking about tdcp....lol
Tau44
08-01-2007, 04:05 PM
why is there no bid or ask showing up on this stock? i am using ameritrade.
daiello
08-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Cause the day is over haha.
Someone hit .059 end of day.
This is looking great :D
Tau44
08-01-2007, 04:10 PM
i haven't had bid or ask all day long on this stock.... also what is the extra cost to buy after regular hours.
Aufan 1983
08-01-2007, 04:16 PM
Found this interesting tid bit on another board and Daiello knows where...lol
I spoke with The CEO this AM and it looks like we are looking at a real business opprtunity here in VSTR - He told me that a merger is coming through in the next 30 days
Keep in mind this is rumor but things are looking good.
Tau44
08-01-2007, 04:20 PM
who are they supposedly merging with? if they merge is the stock price going to go up some or what?
daiello
08-01-2007, 04:38 PM
The CEO said he cant disclose who the other party of the merger is yet but he mentioned that they bring a membership base that exceeds 7000 members.
daiello
08-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Found this interesting tid bit on another board and Daiello knows where...lol
I spoke with The CEO this AM and it looks like we are looking at a real business opprtunity here in VSTR - He told me that a merger is coming through in the next 30 days
Keep in mind this is rumor but things are looking good.
:D
People thought todays run to .09 was big.
I say just wait until news comes about the merger completion.
Also we did well today.
Ran to .09 dropped back to .04 (Panic and what have you) then we closed up at .059.
Taking tomorrow off to watch the excitement build.
Aufan 1983
08-01-2007, 04:43 PM
:D
People thought todays run to .09 was big.
I say just wait until news comes about the merger completion.
Also we did well today.
Ran to .09 dropped back to .04 (Panic and what have you) then we closed up at .059.
Taking tomorrow off to watch the excitement build.
I hear ya....enjoy the day off and hopefully we will take off on your day off....rofl
Evil-Eye
08-01-2007, 04:56 PM
:D
People thought todays run to .09 was big.
I say just wait until news comes about the merger completion.
Also we did well today.
Ran to .09 dropped back to .04 (Panic and what have you) then we closed up at .059.
Taking tomorrow off to watch the excitement build.Tomorrow.....:eek: I had to take today off because I was so depressed buying at the high of the day.
I'm getting too old for this...I am going to start a Muni bond thread. ;)
daiello
08-01-2007, 05:22 PM
Tomorrow.....:eek: I had to take today off because I was so depressed buying at the high of the day.
I'm getting too old for this...I am going to start a Muni bond thread. ;)
Were you the only buyer at .09? haha.
Dont worry, you see how quickly it ran up and on so little shares?
Wait till we get some big guys in this :D
Evil-Eye
08-01-2007, 07:27 PM
Were you the only buyer at .09? haha.
Dont worry, you see how quickly it ran up and on so little shares?
Wait till we get some big guys in this :DNo but I was real close to it.
Aufan 1983
08-01-2007, 07:51 PM
No but I was real close to it.
Don't worry you have company....lol I bought about 75% of shares @ .05 but got caught up in the moment and hit the ask again for few @ 08
It happens to everyone and anyone that says they have never bought at the top is more than likely never bought
Evil-Eye
08-01-2007, 09:11 PM
Don't worry you have company....lol I bought about 75% of shares @ .05 but got caught up in the moment and hit the ask again for few @ 08
It happens to everyone and anyone that says they have never bought at the top is more than likely never bought I couldn't get filled so I had to up the limit. I think I was trying to buy too much. I figured my aon for 200K at .06 would be stretching it so I decreased size and price. ;)
I figured if I could get the triple moving averages to cross I could get a buy signal on the Black Box programs and trigger a run. Instead I had someone selling into the order flow I created. I'm going to need the big guns tomorrow. :eek:
Aufan 1983
08-01-2007, 09:18 PM
I couldn't get filled so I had to up the limit. I think I was trying to buy too much. I figured my aon for 200K at .06 would be stretching it so I decreased size and price. ;)
I figured if I could get the triple moving averages to cross I could get a buy signal on the Black Box programs and trigger a run. Instead I had someone selling into the order flow I created. I'm going to need the big guns tomorrow. :eek:
I think you will be fine. If the merger happens you will be golden
daiello
08-01-2007, 10:05 PM
Need to get some volume, thats our main thing. 100k shares gets us to .09.
Lets push this sucker!
Aufan 1983
08-02-2007, 07:40 AM
who are they supposedly merging with? if they merge is the stock price going to go up some or what?
For a good look at what some other mergers have did check out Greencats thread on mergers and acquisitions. He has a post that shows some former merges and what it did for the share price.
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 08:50 AM
For a good look at what some other mergers have did check out Greencats thread on mergers and acquisitions. He has a post that shows some former merges and what it did for the share price.
I had "CD Now" back in the day and they were bought out for half of what I paid for it.
daiello
08-02-2007, 08:53 AM
Amazon bought out CD NOW if i remember correctly, or atleast when i went to cdnow.com it brought me to amazon.com
Anyway, i took off work, so lets see a dime :D
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 09:13 AM
Amazon bought out CD NOW if i remember correctly, or atleast when i went to cdnow.com it brought me to amazon.com
Anyway, i took off work, so lets see a dime :D
CD Now was bought out by a British company called "King" something. Then after that they went to amazon. If they would have swapped amazon 1:10 for CD Now I would have made money.
daiello
08-02-2007, 09:16 AM
Thats rough, sorry bud!
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 09:20 AM
Thats rough, sorry bud!
Thats the story of my live. I should change my name to "Dark Cloud" or something close to it.
daiello
08-02-2007, 09:21 AM
LOL. Oh stop.
9 minutes to making money time!
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 09:27 AM
LOL. Oh stop.
9 minutes to making money time! I hope. I need gas money to fill up my Cigarette. jk ;)
daiello
08-02-2007, 09:29 AM
lol
K here we go, need constant volume all day
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 09:36 AM
Well that was 10K....I think someone was having sympathy for me and threw that in as a bone.
daiello
08-02-2007, 09:37 AM
I would buy more here considering we know how fast it can run, but out of funds :D!
Tau44
08-02-2007, 09:46 AM
Dialleo
i picked up 5000 shares for you. what do you see this running too. i am going to be out of the office today. so i can't watch it. what do you suggest i set my sell limit at...
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 09:47 AM
I would buy more here considering we know how fast it can run, but out of funds :D!
Then the only problem is that your the only one running it. Thats a lonely feeling when the bid gets pushed down by NITE.
I am going back to watching my video on Candle sticks and check in with my parole officer. ;)
daiello
08-02-2007, 09:48 AM
Tough call.
Not getting the volume i want.
Could see a dime if people start buying! We will see, take a conservative profit.
daiello
08-02-2007, 09:51 AM
Then the only problem is that your the only one running it. Thats a lonely feeling when the bid gets pushed down by NITE.
I am going back to watching my video on Candle sticks and check in with my parole officer. ;)
People are in PHAR, i am trying to make this the next play of the day, im doing my best :D
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 09:53 AM
Dialleo
i picked up 5000 shares for you. what do you see this running too. i am going to be out of the office today. so i can't watch it. what do you suggest i set my sell limit at...
Hey let me know so I can set mine just inside yours. ;)
hahaha jk. I can sit on mine forever. I can make up the loss with the interest I get from my E-Trade savings account.
greencat
08-02-2007, 09:57 AM
Nice play. I have been lounging to much lately. But this is why I like the R/M play. Nice gains..
My reguards to Momo daiello
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 09:57 AM
People are in PHAR, i am trying to make this the next play of the day, im doing my best :D
There are a lot of MM's at .02 level. I think MM's are conspiring against you guys on that.
daiello
08-02-2007, 09:58 AM
Nice play. I have been lounging to much lately. But this is why I like the R/M play. Nice gains..
My reguards to Momo daiello
Did you play this greencat?
This needs a slap haha.
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 10:06 AM
Did you play this greencat?
This needs a slap haha.
It needs something...I see more red then a Homicide scene.
daiello
08-02-2007, 10:07 AM
Its 10am lol, relax!
greencat
08-02-2007, 10:10 AM
Did you play this greencat?
This needs a slap haha.
No I missed it. Been slacking to much. But I am happy for you that did play it..
daiello
08-02-2007, 10:13 AM
Awww, thats no good greencat!
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 10:17 AM
Its 10am lol, relax! Relax...I haven't even got started yet. I am finishing off my first pot of coffee.
I am alright. I am up on ALSC. INSM and SLON are moving in the right direction. The MM's are shaking out the stops on NXTI so I am not worried there. FAIM is flat but they just voted on a merger last week. I am sitting at a nice spot with ECCI as long as they don't go out of business. I am looking at a couple of others I picked up off insider buys. I am still at about 80% cash so I am in no crunch.
daiello
08-02-2007, 10:23 AM
Relax...I haven't even got started yet. I am finishing off my first pot of coffee.
I am alright. I am up on ALSC. INSM and SLON are moving in the right direction. The MM's are shaking out the stops on NXTI so I am not worried there. FAIM is flat but they just voted on a merger last week. I am sitting at a nice spot with ECCI as long as they don't go out of business. I am looking at a couple of others I picked up off insider buys. I am still at about 80% cash so I am in no crunch.
80% cash, then go smack the ask for me lol
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 10:29 AM
80% cash, then go smack the ask for me lol
I could do that but then I wouldn't be at 80% cash. :D
daiello
08-02-2007, 10:33 AM
I could do that but then I wouldn't be at 80% cash. :D
We need volume evil eye!! rawr!
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 10:51 AM
We need volume evil eye!! rawr! You need volume I need a drink....Its 5 o'clock somewhere. :D
daiello
08-02-2007, 10:53 AM
Lol smack the ask, and ill send you some water :D
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 10:53 AM
Look someone bot 8k while I wasn't looking. The ask didn't go anywhere. NITE is sitting on the ask. It's not going anywhere.
daiello
08-02-2007, 11:06 AM
There we go!
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 11:11 AM
There we go!
What happened?
My java based trading platform crashed. :mad:
daiello
08-02-2007, 11:13 AM
.05x.055
1x1
daiello
08-02-2007, 11:18 AM
Back to .04x.05
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 11:22 AM
The whole computer crashed. I am getting back up now.
daiello
08-02-2007, 11:40 AM
Uptick on air.
daiello
08-02-2007, 11:42 AM
Nice buys coming in.
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 11:49 AM
Still not moving.
daiello
08-02-2007, 11:52 AM
So impatient lol
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 12:00 PM
So impatient lolI have to go to work soon and wanted my instant gratification before I left.
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 01:18 PM
Captain, we are taking on water. Our ship is sinking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yav3C4nKAY
Tau44
08-02-2007, 01:55 PM
do you think we will see a bounce this afternoon.
daiello
08-02-2007, 02:34 PM
Merger is still in play, i will be holding my shares.
Aufan 1983
08-02-2007, 08:45 PM
I spoke with the CEO (Sean Lee) this afternoon by phone and got a couple of interesting bits of info.
First let me say he was very polite and took the time to answer a couple of questions. He wasn't trying to escape the phone call as quick as he could as some ceos do. I can't remember everything but here are the important parts.
Mr. Lee did confirm that a merger was in the works but said it had taken alot longer than what they had originally thought. He went on to say they had hoped to have the merger completed this month but it now looked like it would be September.
He said that this wasn't a done deal but that the company they are merging with is now sharing office space with them and he felt it would happen as planned.
He mentioned the stock price movement and said there was 8 or 10 people in communication with each other and they would run the price up and then take it back down. That could explain the sudden jump yesterday to .09 and then the sudden fall.
I know people thought the merger was going to happen in the next two weeks but things happen. I actually feel better about this than I did before talking to Mr. Lee. The wait will be longer but at least we know its not just a rumor.
I'm in pretty heavy but anyone not in this might put it on radar and look for an entry. I really think this will be huge when the merger occurs.
daiello
08-02-2007, 08:57 PM
Thanks Aufan, good job
Evil-Eye
08-02-2007, 10:10 PM
That 8 - 10 people were "us." Me being the one that was supporting the high of the day. :eek:
Tau44
08-03-2007, 11:31 AM
aufan,
i am in this stock. so you all think this is a hold? i am in at .049 now it is .027 so even though the drop you think it is a good hold...
Aufan 1983
08-03-2007, 01:51 PM
aufan,
i am in this stock. so you all think this is a hold? i am in at .049 now it is .027 so even though the drop you think it is a good hold...
Its up to you but I'm holding. Low float and the ceo did say the merger rumors are true. I'm so far down on this one really no reason to sell. Now I guess I'm hoping for 01's to buy some more. We know how fast this can move so if you don't need the cash why sell @ a 50% loss
Evil-Eye
08-03-2007, 02:16 PM
aufan,
i am in this stock. so you all think this is a hold? i am in at .049 now it is .027 so even though the drop you think it is a good hold... I see it going to .01 or .02 before it goes back up. I am staying in. I may buy more if the T/A looks good.
Fear and Greed are the two biggest motivators here. Don't allow them to influence your judgment. It is the hardest part of trading along with Money Management. I did not follow those two principles when I bot this. Buying at the high makes your holding period a lot longer.
This is pure speculation so don't risk it if you can't lose it. Hopefully all that has been posted is true and correct. I believe people until they give me a reason not to believe them. I have no reason not to believe anyone here yet. There are no "nevers" in life only "never yets." This type of BB is susceptible to front running. So keep that in mind when you are looking at something.
This is just one avenue of investing that I am exploring. Other methods I have played the dead cat bounce with some limited success, low pe value investing, the IBD way, special dividends, only dividends, REITs, Trading only one stock both long and short (channeling), and following insider buys. To date following insider buys has paid off the most. I like to follow a guy named Lloyd Miller III. He finds undervalued companies and forces them to show their value. I probable told you you a lot you really didn't want to hear anyway but maybe you can get something out of it.
Good Luck, EE
Tau44
08-03-2007, 02:20 PM
very interesting where can you find more info about loyld miller...
Evil-Eye
08-03-2007, 02:30 PM
very interesting where can you find more info about loyld miller...
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0000949119&owner=include&count=40
Aufan 1983
08-03-2007, 02:55 PM
I see it going to .01 or .02 before it goes back up. I am staying in. I may buy more if the T/A looks good.
Fear and Greed are the two biggest motivators here. Don't allow them to influence your judgment. It is the hardest part of trading along with Money Management. I did not follow those two principles when I bot this. Buying at the high makes your holding period a lot longer.
This is pure speculation so don't risk it if you can't lose it. Hopefully all that has been posted is true and correct. I believe people until they give me a reason not to believe them. I have no reason not to believe anyone here yet. There are no "nevers" in life only "never yets." This type of BB is susceptible to front running. So keep that in mind when you are looking at something.
This is just one avenue of investing that I am exploring. Other methods I have played the dead cat bounce with some limited success, low pe value investing, the IBD way, special dividends, only dividends, REITs, Trading only one stock both long and short (channeling), and following insider buys. To date following insider buys has paid off the most. I like to follow a guy named Lloyd Miller III. He finds undervalued companies and forces them to show their value. I probable told you you a lot you really didn't want to hear anyway but maybe you can get something out of it.
Good Luck, EE
I hope you are right about 01. If it drops below 02 I'm going to hit it like theres no tomorrow
Evil-Eye
08-03-2007, 02:58 PM
I hope you are right about 01. If it drops below 02 I'm going to hit it like theres no tomorrow It looks like they widened the spread. They don't want anyone buying right now. I wonder why. ;)
Aufan 1983
08-03-2007, 03:07 PM
It looks like they widened the spread. They don't want anyone buying right now. I wonder why. ;)
I have no clue. Just some more games I guess.
I think we are at or close to bottom but would still like to see it fall. Evil-Eye if we play our cards right here I think there will be a chance to get some big returns
Evil-Eye
08-03-2007, 03:23 PM
I have no clue. Just some more games I guess.
I think we are at or close to bottom but would still like to see it fall. Evil-Eye if we play our cards right here I think there will be a chance to get some big returns I hope so. My children's college money is riding on this. :D
My feelings about this stock are best summarized in the following song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9NkBxxHxAc
;)
fz4fun
08-03-2007, 06:38 PM
I have no clue. Just some more games I guess.
I think we are at or close to bottom but would still like to see it fall. Evil-Eye if we play our cards right here I think there will be a chance to get some big returns
Evening guys--been working and unable to trade last couple days. Took a position in this on Wed and have been watching it slide also...my wife laughed and said since I started actively screwing around with stocks the whole market has gone south and everybody in the US should be pissed at me, says I am the black cloud of bad news ...lol :D
Maybe if I liquidate my positions in VSTR SLON & TDCP you guys can go green again
Anyway I hope to free up a little cash and get some more of this if it goes any lower and then wait for the thing to take off again..
The charts look like it could turn and run up again. The trades today in looking back-some very big individual blocks traded: 100000, 53800, 72500, and 20000 in 4 trades in late afternoon.
This one could really take off if the pressure is applied and it could be fun
my neophyte opinion on VSTR
Aufan 1983
08-03-2007, 07:06 PM
Evening guys--been working and unable to trade last couple days. Took a position in this on Wed and have been watching it slide also...my wife laughed and said since I started actively screwing around with stocks the whole market has gone south and everybody in the US should be pissed at me, says I am the black cloud of bad news ...lol :D
Maybe if I liquidate my positions in VSTR SLON & TDCP you guys can go green again
Anyway I hope to free up a little cash and get some more of this if it goes any lower and then wait for the thing to take off again..
The charts look like it could turn and run up again. The trades today in looking back-some very big individual blocks traded: 100000, 53800, 72500, and 20000 in 4 trades in late afternoon.
This one could really take off if the pressure is applied and it could be fun
my neophyte opinion on VSTR
Thats the same way I'm looking at it. Sure I'm red but I have already seen how this moves with a little pressure so I'm planning to add a little on dips. I'm red so I'm holding for the big show win or lose.
I think of all the stocks I'm in this one has the best shot at being a double or triple in the next few weeks
daiello
08-03-2007, 11:42 PM
Those big blocks, were they sells or buys?
I am still green, and will load up more closer to the merger, unless this starts moving again.
MMs may have been caught by surprise on the last run, so they may load up this time around and bring us back up. (Since i couldn't watch L2 today i cant be sure, but possibly Monday i will be around)
Just my opinion, or happy thinking haha.
PS. Just to make sure, someone (or I) should call the T/A or the Company to make sure no new shares hit the market, lots of volume, could be a panic sell or new shares, just want to cross it off the list :D
Aufan 1983
08-04-2007, 12:46 AM
Those big blocks, were they sells or buys?
I am still green, and will load up more closer to the merger, unless this starts moving again.
MMs may have been caught by surprise on the last run, so they may load up this time around and bring us back up. (Since i couldn't watch L2 today i cant be sure, but possibly Monday i will be around)
Just my opinion, or happy thinking haha.
PS. Just to make sure, someone (or I) should call the T/A or the Company to make sure no new shares hit the market, lots of volume, could be a panic sell or new shares, just want to cross it off the list :D
We have taken an unofficial vote and we elected you to represent us and call T/A....lol
daiello
08-04-2007, 01:04 AM
Haha will do.
But were they big buys or big sells?
Evil-Eye
08-04-2007, 01:53 AM
Last 0.0270 Open 0.0350 Volume 366,715
Change -0.0130 -32.50%
High 0.0400 Last Volume 72,500
Bid N/A Low 0.0250 Up Volume [?] 13,000
Ask N/A VWAP 0.0300 Neutral Volume [?] 322,815
Previous Close 0.0400 Trades 21 Down Volume [?] 30,900
A lot shares went sideways.
PennyPicker
08-04-2007, 02:54 PM
damn i missed the big run...
daiello
08-04-2007, 05:34 PM
Thats because you decided to be a newbie and not enter when i alerted you at .02
Evil-Eye
08-04-2007, 08:58 PM
I got in.......at .08 . :eek:
daiello
08-04-2007, 11:05 PM
Oh evil :(
Evil-Eye
08-04-2007, 11:38 PM
I am glad that it wasn't filled at .09. :D
daiello
08-04-2007, 11:51 PM
Lol :D
Lets hope this works out for us.
Kuzami
08-05-2007, 12:03 AM
Hrm...was thinking about picking up some on Monday...do I dare think that it'll be low? heh
daiello
08-05-2007, 12:06 AM
Tough call.
In my opinion, i would wait to make sure the selling is complete, then you can decide if you want to get in. :D
Good luck with your decision.
Kuzami
08-05-2007, 12:08 AM
Yep, was my thinking...I'll wait to see how things look before diving in...you know there's trouble if you don't look first!
Evil-Eye
08-05-2007, 08:57 PM
Hrm...was thinking about picking up some on Monday...do I dare think that it'll be low? heh I am thinking the MM's are walking it down to demoralize the buyers last week. I say hit them and hit them hard. Don't sell for anything less then 500%. I'll be out at .10 but you guys keep hitting it. I'll be there in spirit. :D
Evil-Eye
08-05-2007, 08:58 PM
Oh look I am a Jedi Knight now. I think I will celebrate.
daiello
08-05-2007, 09:02 PM
LOL! Congratulations!
Evil-Eye
08-06-2007, 05:22 PM
The spread was wide today all day. MM's did not want anyone buying. I guess they are still partially short from the other day. I was tempted to hit them between the spread today repeatedly. :D
Tau44
08-06-2007, 06:17 PM
Hopefully, we will see a better result tomorrow.....
Evil-Eye
08-06-2007, 06:38 PM
Hopefully, we will see a better result tomorrow.....
Yea, everything I had started strong off the open then died by mid morning. I keep forgetting that it's summer and everything is usually off during the summer except me.
Tau44
08-07-2007, 09:35 AM
no volume. any thoughts on this as well today
daiello
08-07-2007, 09:42 AM
Just have to wait it out till the merger :D
Aufan 1983
08-07-2007, 09:42 AM
no volume. any thoughts on this as well today
You don't want to know my thoughts....lol I'm so red the only choice I have is hold on. I'm going to ride it out until we see something about the merger either yes or no and then see what route to go from there.
Tau44
08-07-2007, 09:46 AM
when is the merger suppose to take place? if it goes through what kind of bounce do you see this stock doing?
fz4fun
08-07-2007, 10:08 AM
I'm hoping the smell I smell isn't the smell I think it is either...this may soon join my pile of junk picks to remember and learn from rofl
Let's go for some volume today
Aufan 1983
08-07-2007, 10:44 AM
I'm hoping the smell I smell isn't the smell I think it is either...this may soon join my pile of junk picks to remember and learn from rofl
Let's go for some volume today
I thought the same thing..... ;) I have one that will sit in first place for a long time LBTN I sold out and it sold all but 10,000 shares and kept falling to never return. I now have 10,000 shares worth 1.00 and even thats restricted ....rofl
fz4fun
08-07-2007, 11:35 AM
Let us all rhyme here
We go from LOW volume yesterday
On our way to NO volume today
repeat 3 times and spin in a circle real fast
lol thought it might be more fun than watching all these stocks go nowhere lately... wow crazy days in the market
:D
daiello
08-07-2007, 11:40 AM
In the end i think we SHOULD be okay.
We see the run to .09 on what 100,000 shares?
If we get news about the merger, share structure, etc then we will see that, and hopefully higher. Id rather wait for the fall though so we see more than a 100% gain.
Weirdharold
08-07-2007, 01:41 PM
Alright who is pushing it up? @.03
daiello
08-07-2007, 02:27 PM
I can take out .045 right now, but i dont think we have anyone to keep it going.
Weirdharold
08-07-2007, 02:34 PM
I have all my funds tied up.... probably til tomorrow
daiello
08-07-2007, 02:39 PM
I will paint end of day
Evil-Eye
08-07-2007, 02:54 PM
Where's the beef?
Tau44
08-08-2007, 10:35 AM
do i take my losses on this one or sit on it. what is the general opinion on this one. i am so far red i guess it doesn't really matter. i know the merger is suppose to go through. is it likely that this merger will go through and not see a bump.
fz4fun
08-08-2007, 12:06 PM
do i take my losses on this one or sit on it. what is the general opinion on this one. i am so far red i guess it doesn't really matter. i know the merger is suppose to go through. is it likely that this merger will go through and not see a bump.
Tau
I can only speak for myself on this one. I got in expecting it to run up and the MM's just squashed it like a bug---no volume at all and still none today yet. I am in the red and waiting now for some kind of move at some point. I thought it was legit when I got in, but now playing it like a scam pump-my opinion only-If I get close to green-I am out on this doggy
Here boy want a doggie treat??
LOL
Evil-Eye
08-08-2007, 08:12 PM
I can take out .045 right now, but i dont think we have anyone to keep it going. That is if that was all there was. They need to post 5k and they can hide the rest.
Tau44
08-09-2007, 11:14 AM
This stock has me worried. NO volume pretty much all week.
daiello
08-09-2007, 11:18 AM
Make a new base here.
Merger still in play, i wonder if anyone has found who it is yet.
Evil-Eye
08-09-2007, 08:26 PM
It was creeping up today. Someone is accumulating, hopefully. :rolleyes:
Weirdharold
08-09-2007, 08:41 PM
I thnk I will accumulate some myself... I took a pretty good look at the company and it really doesn't look to bad for a pink.... I really should call myself and talk to da man... but my gut (and we all know how easy it is to let tht sucker get in the way) is telling me this is a winner in the short to medium term ... and I should have bought this morning.
Evil-Eye
08-09-2007, 08:51 PM
I thnk I will accumulate some myself... I took a pretty good look at the company and it really doesn't look to bad for a pink.... I really should call myself and talk to da man... but my gut (and we all know how easy it is to let tht sucker get in the way) is telling me this is a winner in the short to medium term ... and I should have bought this morning. I am in at .08 so you can't do worse then me. If you want I will sell you mine right now for .08/sh. Don't hesitate this stock is going higher. Low float, good story, strong Mgt and a possible merger/buy out scenario. Buy 100K now, only .08/sh.
just kidding. That was my shortened version of a boiler room pitch.
:D
Tau44
08-14-2007, 03:00 PM
we are starting to take off up .01
Tau44
08-14-2007, 04:05 PM
do you all see this opening higher tomorrow. i am still down in this stock but with the .01 increase today. it has helped me not be down as much. should i sell in your opinion right off the bat in the morning and cut my losses or do you see this going up a little more and i can break even or make a dollar or two
thanks,
Evil-Eye
08-14-2007, 10:54 PM
I am in at .08 and I am not selling. Does that make you feel better?
Tau44
08-15-2007, 02:27 PM
that just hurt. it dropped 33.3% or .015 pps. ouch!! what caused that does anyone know. i don't see any news out. did i miss something........
Evil-Eye
08-15-2007, 02:58 PM
that just hurt. it dropped 33.3% or .015 pps. ouch!! what caused that does anyone know. i don't see any news out. did i miss something........
There's no activity because there is no activity if you know what I mean. It's like watching paint dry. Just hang in there. Eventually someone will want our shares.
Tau44
08-17-2007, 03:00 PM
the ask is up to .05 but the bid is still at .025 hopefully we will see a move up. i am trying to sell some shares now but can't get the order to fill.
Tau44
08-22-2007, 04:03 PM
it has dropped to bid .025 and ask .035
do you all still believe in this stock? or are we all screwed.... what would be a good exit number in your opinion. I am in at .05
daiello
08-22-2007, 07:22 PM
Chill, :D We will all be fine, still holding my shares.
Evil-Eye
08-22-2007, 07:31 PM
Same here and I am at .08 :D I am not selling my shares until someone wants to offer me $1.00 each for them. Unfortunately they may end up as wall paper.
Tau44
08-23-2007, 12:39 PM
what is causing you all to have hope on this stock? charts, know something that we all don't, history, or gut feeling.... just curious
Tau44
08-23-2007, 12:52 PM
I was looking at there website. I was reading the founders newsletter he sends out monthly. i am not sure how old it was maybe june. he says he is merger with a complementing company. has this happened yet? if so who, i am wondering if this is why the stock is taking a beating. It also looks like most of there pr is in the months of oct. and nov.
any other insights
Tau44
08-23-2007, 12:58 PM
i went to the otcbb webpage and typed in vstr. they don't show that they have filed anything since 01 and 02 is that correct? they didn't show any other filings for any other year...... no much on the company... need a bounce to get out of this mistake....
Tau44
08-28-2007, 11:33 AM
what is going on with vstr today. down -.02 i am in the HOUSE OF PAIN!
Weirdharold
08-28-2007, 12:55 PM
i went to the otcbb webpage and typed in vstr. they don't show that they have filed anything since 01 and 02 is that correct? they didn't show any other filings for any other year...... no much on the company... need a bounce to get out of this mistake....
Aren't you in at .049? It was at .05 yesterday and you didn't take it? Then stop whining and be patient.
Tau44
08-28-2007, 01:53 PM
What whinning? I am in at .05 but the bid never got that high. Just the ask. If you didn't realize. I had a sell order for .048 but never got high enough to fill. What is your problem?
Evil-Eye
08-28-2007, 02:00 PM
Was it the bid or the ask at .05? I haven't seen the bid move.
Tau44
08-28-2007, 02:03 PM
the ask went to .05 yesterday but the bid hasn't moved a bit in a week or so....
that is what i was trying to say. i couldn't dump the shares yesterday because the bid didn't move just the ask.. we need the bid to move....
Evil-Eye
08-28-2007, 04:13 PM
It's a conspiracy by the powers that be to keep the little man down. I bot some coal today. I might by some more tomorrow before I go off to Mom-fest. I think Coal is the wave of the future as soon as we get rid of the environmentalists. I think I will do a little dance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNP2YuaCdI
daiello
08-30-2007, 09:10 AM
I hope you guys held, congrats to all :D
ValueSetters Inc., (VSTR.PK) the online buying group for independent retailers, today announced it is finalizing its merger plans with 30fold LLC, a privately held, Faith-Based Network Marketing Business headquartered in Arizona. The merged company, once completed, will continue as a publicly traded entity.
30fold currently hosts thousands of Online Christian Book and Music Stores and is in the process of expanding its product base to include health products, music instruments and giftware, whose supply is facilitated through ValueSetters. Sean Lee CEO of ValueSetters said, "The merger is a match made in Heaven as it allows the online bookstores to add a wide range of very profitable products to their line while giving ValueSetters a critical mass of resellers in the Christian community."
John Godzich, Founder and CEO of 30fold said, "We now have both the supply of profitable product and the audience for the product under one roof."
The company expects the merger to be completed in the next 30 days.
Forward-Looking Statements
The information contained herein includes certain forward-looking statements of our management. Forward-looking statements are statements that estimate the happening of future events and are not based on historical fact. Forward-looking statements may be identified by the use of forward-looking terminology, such as "may," "could," "expect," "estimate," "anticipate," "plan," "predict," "probable," "possible," "should," "continue," or similar terms, variations of those terms or the negative of those terms. The forward-looking statements specified in the following information have been compiled by our management on the basis of assumptions made by management and considered by management to be reasonable. Our future operating results, however, are impossible to predict and no representation, guaranty, or warranty is to be inferred from those forward-looking statements.
SOURCE: ValueSetters Inc.
ValueSetters Inc., Phoenix
Sean Lee, 602-547-1611
slee@valuesetters.com
Weirdharold
08-30-2007, 09:32 AM
I hope you guys held, congrats to all :D
ValueSetters Inc., (VSTR.PK) the online buying group for independent retailers, today announced it is finalizing its merger plans with 30fold LLC, a privately held, Faith-Based Network Marketing Business headquartered in Arizona. The merged company, once completed, will continue as a publicly traded entity.
30fold currently hosts thousands of Online Christian Book and Music Stores and is in the process of expanding its product base to include health products, music instruments and giftware, whose supply is facilitated through ValueSetters. Sean Lee CEO of ValueSetters said, "The merger is a match made in Heaven as it allows the online bookstores to add a wide range of very profitable products to their line while giving ValueSetters a critical mass of resellers in the Christian community."
John Godzich, Founder and CEO of 30fold said, "We now have both the supply of profitable product and the audience for the product under one roof."
The company expects the merger to be completed in the next 30 days.
Forward-Looking Statements
The information contained herein includes certain forward-looking statements of our management. Forward-looking statements are statements that estimate the happening of future events and are not based on historical fact. Forward-looking statements may be identified by the use of forward-looking terminology, such as "may," "could," "expect," "estimate," "anticipate," "plan," "predict," "probable," "possible," "should," "continue," or similar terms, variations of those terms or the negative of those terms. The forward-looking statements specified in the following information have been compiled by our management on the basis of assumptions made by management and considered by management to be reasonable. Our future operating results, however, are impossible to predict and no representation, guaranty, or warranty is to be inferred from those forward-looking statements.
SOURCE: ValueSetters Inc.
ValueSetters Inc., Phoenix
Sean Lee, 602-547-1611
slee@valuesetters.com
And is taking off! Already up 166%
Weirdharold
08-30-2007, 09:41 AM
I sure hope Evil is getting a chance to watch this.... is it storming in Fla yet?
Tau44
08-30-2007, 09:47 AM
i am out at .075 i will take my profits and go. just wanted to get out. it will probably go up some more. but that is ok.
actually what do you all see this going too...
Weirdharold
08-30-2007, 10:02 AM
i am out at .075 i will take my profits and go. just wanted to get out. it will probably go up some more. but that is ok.
actually what do you all see this going too...
oh there is no telling, but 300 to 1000% but there will still be patients involved to get the most out of it.... still about 30 days to finalize the merger... but at least they have given the name of the other party this time.
Evil-Eye
09-04-2007, 08:21 AM
I sure hope Evil is getting a chance to watch this.... is it storming in Fla yet?
I'm back. I didn't get a chance to look at this until last night. My account says a lost more $$ on this. What did it get up to?I am still holding out for my $1/sh. I need a new house so it must be a $1 or more soon.
I wasn't in Florida, I was in Ocean City MD. My mother is a little strange. She lives right near the Jupiter Inlet which has a couple of great parks and beaches there. For some reason she drives two days to go to the OC beach when she could drive 5 minutes and be at the Jupiter beaches.
Weirdharold
09-04-2007, 12:10 PM
WB glad to have you back... it looked like it was going to move for a bit... I think it got up a little above .05 then slide back.... so it wasn't something that would have been of real interest to you.
Yeah, mothers can be strange creatures.... I miss those little quirky thing , and sure wish I could experience them again.
Evil-Eye
09-30-2007, 09:20 PM
Not much going on here but I came across this while trying to find a reason why I bought this "train wreck of a stock". Apparently the founder and CEO of 30fold, LLC is John Godzich. John Godzich is a AMWAY distributer and a large one at that from what I have read. He is connected to the Bush family through another AMWAY person, Doug Wead, who went on to work at the White House under Bush 1.
Now, what I have gathered from reading up on this is that 30fold, LLC is a Multi Level Marketer with a fund raising aspect for Christian organizations. 30fold was limited in offerings to such things as Christian books and music.
http://www.christianbusinessopportunity.com/30-fold-bookstores.html
http://www.30fold.net/About_us.htm
John speaks multiple languages. He has traveled the world, and he has touched lives every time he has stepped onto a new piece of land. John Godzich’s achievements are many, including building a 250 million dollar a year business. However he is likely to omit such successes in casual conversation. He would rather sit down to a good meal, look you in the eye, and tell you about pastors in the Philippines who grew their church attendance by 50% after a conference he conducted. Then he will nudge you and say “You see. All things are possible with God.” To John, being an instrument in the success of others is his lifeblood.
Now, Valuesetters is injected into the mix with a large product offering but had a limited marketing scheme. Now, this is were things get interesting. John Godzich is a MLM guru with an established network. The major "nut" that needs to be cracked in being successful in MLM is building the network. You have to get in early so your at the top and you need to hold a lot of meetings to build your down stream. John already has the network and doesn't need to have meetings to start this up. The marketing costs associated with multi level are less then traditional marketing costs. Some will disagree with that but the successful MLM companies out there must be doing something right. One such MLM built company was LCI long distance.
Best of all God is behind this one so it can't fail. :eek:
Evil-Eye
10-18-2007, 04:52 PM
Members Welcome News of ValueSetters Merger
Oct 18, 2007 09:00:17 (ET)
PHOENIX, Oct 18, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ValueSetters Inc. (Pink Sheets: VSTR) is pleased to announce that its active membership (members in good standing with regard to dues) has increased sixfold over the past year when the program was launched.
The surge may be attributed to the news of the merger, but as CEO John Godzich added: "(it)...may also be due in part to the implementation of the new Team Member Management system that allows more advanced tracking and support of Team Member activities. Moreover, the positive reaction to the merger by the field leadership gives us an optimistic outlook on the future impact of our marketing campaigns."
About ValueSetters
ValueSetters Inc. ( www.valuesetters.com and www.30fold.com ) is an online buying group for independent retailers as well as an online faith-based retailer and marketer. The company's mission is to provide products and support services that drive the success and profitability of its member business network.
Evil-Eye
10-18-2007, 04:53 PM
ValueSetters Initiates Advertising Campaign
Oct 16, 2007 07:11:01 (ET)
PHOENIX, Oct 16, 2007 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- ValueSetters (Pink Sheets: VSTR) is pleased to confirm the merger with 30Fold and emphasize the synergy created by bringing the two companies together. The integration of all assets of both entities not only increases business opportunities for the merged whole but also provides immediate distribution channels for products already under development.
The merger will enable a more enhanced roll-out of the product line at a speed that will result in proof of concept occurring more quickly and revenues being realized ahead of previous schedules. There will be numerous other benefits resulting from the merger including structural, financial and operational efficiencies.
In order to launch its new business model, ValueSetters is presently piloting a targeted media advertising campaign that has already shown positive results, and will allow management to assess the effectiveness of the distribution channels and the business model being deployed.
CEO John Godzich stated: "Now that the merger is 100% complete, we will begin rolling out lines of exciting new consumable products, enabling our network to develop and solidify our growing retail customer base."
About ValueSetters
ValueSetters, Inc. ( www.valuesetters.com and www.30fold.com ) is an online buying group for independent retailers as well as an online faith-based retailer and marketer. The company's mission is to provide products and support services that drive the success and profitability of its member business network.
Evil-Eye
11-04-2007, 04:41 PM
Sounds like they took a toxic pipe.
http://www.wallst.net/audio/audio.asp?ticker=VSTR&id=4097
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