TDCP 3DIcon Corporation - Penny Stock-3D Communication Equipment

[btltreasures]

No worries... I was able to sell my shares at $1.19, and was able to buy back in @ $1.09 with many more shares... lucky it worked, i guess.




It looks like you bought back in to soon. lolol
This doesn't look pretty.

[fu_ming_xia]

If I had the money I''d pick up some more too.. cause YOU KNOW when that news hits.... people be buying like MADD! YO!

[Grizzums]

Stocks that go straight up with no consolidation are a day traders delight....

...personally, am not surprised.

Good Luck.

[Aufan 1983]

Do we have an example of the MMs pile-driving this into the ground or what? The price has fallen now on less volume than it had gone up earlier this AM. This is nuts-o

Alot big lots sold.... Sellers? flippers? Whatever the case it has driven us down in a hurry. We have managed to turn a very green day into wiping out Fridays gains.

Hopefully we get a little breathing room this afternoon.

[btltreasures]

Hopefully, we have hit the bottom for the day.

[scmfinance]

Stocks that go straight up with no consolidation are a day traders delight....

...personally, am not surprised.

Good Luck.

neither am i...called it last week if no news came out...

[Kuzami]

I picked up some more on this downswing...much happier with my position now:)

[Grizzums]

Hopefully, we have hit the bottom for the day.

Just noticed you were from Muskegon...floated that river a few times when visiting some relatives...nice area. :)

[btltreasures]

Just noticed you were from Muskegon...floated that river a few times when visiting some relatives...nice area. :)



Yes it is a nice area for that and we also have great lakes. Have lived here 28 years.

[btltreasures]

boy is the bid and ask sure jumping around.


.90x.94 to 1.02x1.04

[rblight]

moving back up @ $0.95. I am assuming that there are a lot of people in this for quick short term profits with all this volatility. All the attention is a good thing, even if there is some fluctuation in PPS, I would think.

[fu_ming_xia]

I'm assuming that when we get uplisted the MM's won't be able to play these "games"....... Maybe it's kinda like the last hurah for them, trying to take advantage while they still have time.? No?

[NNP]

It would be a wonderful time to make a big headline story about the big board -- that is what all of us have been waiting for.

[fz4fun]

just dumped some small time losers to grab another 600 shares @0.90---wish I had more available cash...or the b***s to have tried a flip at 1.20 this am

pps should come back

[Dinamo]

.85 x .90.
Very nasty drop. Like some members were saying, I think that a lot of people were waiting for a PR. Since that didn't happen, a lot of people sold. This is what we get from investing in a low float stock: it moves quick in either direction. Hopefully it will recover soon.

[WashInLux]

I'm assuming that when we get uplisted the MM's won't be able to play these "games"....... Maybe it's kinda like the last hurah for them, trying to take advantage while they still have time.? No?

You assume wrong. They play games no matter what exchange. If it does go to the BB, hopefully it's just a stepping stone.

[CatFish]

just got home from work. what the heck happened. must have been a lot of profit takers or are they walking it down on small volume?

[scmfinance]

I'm assuming that when we get uplisted the MM's won't be able to play these "games"....... Maybe it's kinda like the last hurah for them, trying to take advantage while they still have time.? No?

mms will always "play games" no matter what board the stock trades on...it's their job to make money. the games change form and may be a little less blatant on the larger exchanges.

also, IMO this did not fall due to mms. people were expecting a PR this morning, it didn't come (it still may come today, tomorrow, etc.). the stock jumped on anticipation. hit resistance. people flipped. never gained steam again. still no pr. so people took gains and losses and left for now. i don't think the bleeding is over though. IMO the blood loss will be related directly to when the PR comes out or see a bounce around the 200 MA. i could be wrong and it could hold higher.

[Kazmania]

just got home from work. what the heck happened. must have been a lot of profit takers or are they walking it down on small volume?

I think its been some of both - there have been some sizeable sales happening, and i've seen a few piddly little ones too - under 500 shares that they used to drop the b/a on too

[Captain Crazy]

Just another 100 shares @ .90 Now when this hits 500 dollars I will then remember that this was worth it.

[dcxman]

Wild day indeed. I just put it up on the projector and am running around the office!

[Aufan 1983]

mms will always "play games" no matter what board the stock trades on...it's their job to make money. the games change form and may be a little less blatant on the larger exchanges.

also, IMO this did not fall due to mms. people were expecting a PR this morning, it didn't come (it still may come today, tomorrow, etc.). the stock jumped on anticipation. hit resistance. people flipped. never gained steam again. still no pr. so people took gains and losses and left for now. i don't think the bleeding is over though. IMO the blood loss will be related directly to when the PR comes out or see a bounce around the 200 MA. i could be wrong and it could hold higher.

Agreed. I think you hit the nail on the head. People are still awaiting news and once the selling or flipping started it just fed on itself. I thought we could hold through Tuesday without news and down from there but needless to say I was very wrong

[fu_ming_xia]

Dang, people are really ansi if they don't hear any news.... geez... I'm chilling. I guess it's because I'm not playing with my "life savings here"...the benefits far outweigh the cost in my case. I'm a Buy, Hold, and Prosper!

[TraderJJ]

I wasn't expecting a PR within x days, but from reading posts, it seems like some were. Things will happen on the company's schedule, not our prognostications. Thus, some sellers today. To me, it's a buying opportunity. Let's see if this is the bottom.

[moneytalks]

Time for a PR to salvage the day....:mad:

[CactusPowered]

Ok, somebody just bought 3000 shares at the ask .83/.87 and then immediately the bid/ask dropped to .83/.85. This is definately being manipulated. My guess is that in addition to profit taking because of lack of a pr, they are also trying to walk this down to gain shares for cheap.

[btltreasures]

Time for a PR to salvage the day....:mad:



This really hurts. I hate looking at my acount.

[Dangerman]

Dang, people are really ansi if they don't hear any news.... geez... I'm chilling. I guess it's because I'm not playing with my "life savings here"...the benefits far outweigh the cost in my case. I'm a Buy, Hold, and Prosper!


I'm in the same boat. Good buying opportunity here. Waiting to see it drop some more.

[fortuna1]

This is one hell of a consolidation! LOL

[3DCyclone]

After so many days of ups, we were due for an adjustment of sorts. News or no news today or tomorrow or the next day will not make that much difference once it does come out. IMO

I'm not going to have any ticker tantrums, keep your eyes on the horizon folks!

[Dangerman]

I guess people are trying to flip this. I'm not very good at flipping. Especially when I'm at work. Need to learn how to do this better.

[Grizzums]

I wasn't expecting a PR within x days, but from reading posts, it seems like some were. Things will happen on the company's schedule, not our prognostications. Thus, some sellers today. To me, it's a buying opportunity. Let's see if this is the bottom.

Hi JJ.

They shouldn't release a pr on the dates that shareholders believe they should? What kind of logic is that? lol...j/k I'm right there with you. ;)

[Zingpast]

mms will always "play games" no matter what board the stock trades on...it's their job to make money. the games change form and may be a little less blatant on the larger exchanges.

also, IMO this did not fall due to mms. people were expecting a PR this morning, it didn't come (it still may come today, tomorrow, etc.). the stock jumped on anticipation. hit resistance. people flipped. never gained steam again. still no pr. so people took gains and losses and left for now. i don't think the bleeding is over though. IMO the blood loss will be related directly to when the PR comes out or see a bounce around the 200 MA. i could be wrong and it could hold higher.

The uplisting to the OTC BB may take place as early as this week. If you are expecting a public demo, I don't think that is going to happen, same as the Apple iphone. There have already been several exciting internal demos. Martin Keating admires Steve jobs. Jobs would do well to admire MK, in my opinion.
MK will give us what we have been waiting for...he is someone you NEVER want to bet against.
Above all, patience! By Christmas we should all have plenty of candy and nuts

[Grizzums]

This is one hell of a consolidation! LOL

You've been saying this for days Fortuna...and Ive agreed with you.

3D..."ticker tantrums"? lol...good one :D

[TraderJJ]

lol.
MMs widening the spread now, trying to get shares. IMO, they read sentiment, and take advantage of it for their gain...naw, MMs wouldn't do that, would they?!

[CactusPowered]

The uplisting to the OTC BB may take place as early as this week. If you are expecting a public demo, I don't think that is going to happen, same as the Apple iphone. There have already been several exciting internal demos. Martin Keating admires Steve jobs. Jobs would do well to admire MK, in my opinion.
MK will give us what we have been waiting for...he is someone you NEVER want to bet against.
Above all, patience! By Christmas we should all have plenty of candy and nuts

How do you know it's going to uplist?

[moneytalks]

Today is not over and we still have tomorrow and tomorrow.... . From what I read it takes "at least" 3 days to up list once the sec filing is approved so it's due tomorrow "if" they can get it done in 3 days. ;)

[Aufan 1983]

This has been a very confusing day. I have went from dancing naked in the parking lot @ 1.20 to throwing up @ .83 and now we are moving up again so I'm removing my shirt and headed back to the parking lot...lol :o

[Grizzums]

This has been a very confusing day. I have went from dancing naked in the parking lot @ 1.20 to throwing up @ .83 and now we are moving up again so I'm removing my shirt and headed back to the parking lot...lol :o

I think there is some sort of medication for that kind of manic disorder....lol...or should I say, disorderly conduct.

[Splat10]

i took this as a buying opp. to add another 3500 at 90. I think that was it for the drop and we'll see it start back up. wanted to hit 85 but was't at my desk all morning. If you like this stock you have t oput it away and not look at it for a while. What do you expect to sell it at and wait till then if you don't plan on flipping as i don't.

[moneytalks]

This has been a very confusing day. I have went from dancing naked in the parking lot @ 1.20 to throwing up @ .83 and now we are moving up again so I'm removing my shirt and headed back to the parking lot...lol :o

Glad I wasn't there to see the naked dance because that would have been uglier than what we've seen from the drop today.:eek:

[Splat10]

i took this as a buying opp. to add another 3500 at 90. I think that was it for the drop and we'll see it start back up. wanted to hit 85 but was't at my desk all morning. If you like this stock you have t oput it away and not look at it for a while. What do you expect to sell it at and wait till then if you don't plan on flipping as i don't.

90 is getting hammered and about to fall. I fully expect we'll close over a buck today.

[btltreasures]

High volume today. I wish I had more money to buy at these prices.

[Aufan 1983]

I think there is some sort of medication for that kind of manic disorder....lol...or should I say, disorderly conduct.

Grizz..... There is and its called green :D

[btltreasures]

Hey all, I'm on vacation but had a few minutes to witness this big pullback.. It appears support is .83. It dropped to .83 on Thur and we bounced of it today. lets hope that holds and this afternoon we head back over a buck...



Hi Razor, hope you are enjoying your vacation.

[CactusPowered]

The volume is huge on this baby today, 345k by lunchtime? that's a huge amount for TDCP. I can only hope that as the stock jumps up more and more we'll get more exposure. That should lead to it going up some more, etc. Rinse and repeat :)

[jigar657]

just a quick question..where can i get the most updated quote ? coz on zecco.com (from where i trade) it shows different quote..and on msn.com it shows different quote..

[CactusPowered]

just a quick question..where can i get the most updated quote ? coz on zecco.com (from where i trade) it shows different quote..and on msn.com it shows different quote..

zecco should be realtime, however any of the public services (yahoo, msn, etc) are up to 20 minutes behind.

[Texasrunner43]

I just got my order filled at .85. Odd amout of 470 shares to make even 1200 in this account. I have 6800 in IRA account and 1000 in my wifes account. Now lets roll. Come on Google price!!!!!!

[MnM]

Looks like another buying oppertunity is presenting itself. ;)

Come on ONE CENT :D:D:D

[Zingpast]

How do you know it's going to uplist?

Please go back and read my previous posts about this.
The company has spent about $200,000 to uplist to the OTC BB. The filing has been accepted and is effective. These documents were made available to all.
The uplist is imminent, maybe as early as this week. For any who don't understand the impact of uplisting, it will mean HUGE exposure to new potential shareholders. Brokers will, for the first time, be allowed to recommend the stock and institutions will be able to buy it.
People were expecting a major PR, and they got it, but many did not grasp the importance of it. Instead, they ASSUMED that the PR would be about a PUBLIC demo. MK admires Steve Jobs and Jobs didn't demo the iphone. But, not to worry! MK will deliver the goods, he is into producing what people want, but not necessarily what they expect.
All the information I have is public, but I also have known MK for about 20 years and IMO he is the real deal.

[lovemoney]

I bought in earlier at 1.08

Just got in some more at .85

Averaging down.

[Pillzilla]

Put a limit order in at .80, hoping to flip for just a bit more....we will see

[lovemoney]

Starting to inch back up. Nice sell off. May have establish support at .85. Buying pressure should push this baby back up. Hopefully to around 1.09 - 1.10 by EOD. I'm looking at least see 1.15 -1.17 tomorrow EOD.

[guy91]

Man..... I just got to school and decided to check on how it was doing and needless to say, the update hurts... But, it seems to be crawling back up. It dropped @ the end of last week 0.95 to 0.83 and then climbed back up to 1.08 the next day, so... let's hope it's making that surpassing upward trend right now.

I have my fingers crossed.

[WeatherCat]

Everyone knows the uplist is coming...Yeah this morning was ugly to say the least. I'm thinking folks out there are simply trying to load up by flipping with of course some taking profits...Nontheless the shares are changing hands and were consolidating at a higher level...It's all good!!! :D

[moneytalks]

Looking bettter!!!

[CactusPowered]

Everyone knows the uplist is coming...Yeah this morning was ugly to say the least. I'm thinking folks out there are simply trying to load up by flipping with of course some taking profits...Nontheless the shares are changing hands and were consolidating at a higher level...It's all good!!! :D

alright boys, fasten your seatbelts. We're retracing the losses from earlier and the bid/ask is being brought up fast :) could we possibly end green???!?

[WeatherCat]

that would be totally amazing...Talk about ying and yang!!! This is going to be one crazy ride once were listed...

[moneytalks]

that would be totally amazing...Talk about ying and yang!!! This is going to be one crazy ride once were listed...

We that stay the course will be happy we did when this thing hits...

[WeatherCat]

No doubt...I would have liked to have throw some more change at it in the 80s...But I'm all tapped out now and will become a spectator. Some will make some nice GG on the flip while others may get slaughtered...

[Meso X]

I just put in an order @ .98. Why the big difference between the bid, .90 and the ask , .98?

[Miami]

ok. I felt the shuttle take off. I closed my eyes to enjoy the ride, and when I opened my eyes I saw land :confused: .Who left something behind and just had to return to get something??? I was really looking forward to seeing some Moon rock!!!

[3DCyclone]

MM games, but looks like it tightening up and in the up direction. We should be fine.

[guy91]

Sweet news.... back up to $1.01- Almost back in the profit for today.

[fortuna1]

Miami,

I think it's because the shuttle is designed for the space station... LOL
You may want to hop on a Saturn 5.:)

[fortuna1]

Back to $1.00. Anyone for the cat dance! LOL
JK, what a day it is. Such craziness flipping and DTing.
We are still way above the 5 day MA at this point. Will be looking closely at the chart today. Momentum still looks up!

[Dinamo]

Excellent recovery! Go TDCP!

[3DCyclone]

Speaking of green dancing... Take one step back and two steps forward, turn and dosie doh uplist your pardner! yeeeehaaaaaaaw!

[Miami]

Speaking of green dancing... Take one step back and two steps forward, turn and dosie doh uplist your pardner! yeeeehaaaaaaaw!Well said.

[moneytalks]

I look to end in the green by .02... Any other guesses?

[themillionaire24]

I look to end in the green by .02... Any other guesses?


I will predict a bullish finish like the last few days. It will finish off at 1.08 I hope.

But then again, this stock is IMPOSSIBLE to predict. I didn't think a fall to the .80s could have happened, and it did. We had a nice recovery though which was predictable.

[moneytalks]

I will predict a bullish finish like the last few days. It will finish off at 1.8 I hope.

But then again, this stock is IMPOSSIBLE to predict. I didn't think a fall to the .80s could have happened, and it did. We had a nice recovery though which was predictable.

1.80 or 1.08?

[themillionaire24]

oh, sorry. Typo.

Although, I think I will let you decide;) I'd be happy with either.

[guy91]

It's leveled off @ $1.01 for about 45 minutes now... Does this look good or bad to you all? We've got about 70 minutes of the day left, and I hope it ends today somewhat similar to how it started.

[Popcan]

I'm trying to figure out what takes more balls holding on to this stock as a long term or looking for flips along the way. Man, there are so many "shoulda woulda, coulda's" with this stock.

[Chaz]

It makes good sense to uplist THEN have news on a demo.

If brokers and institutions are able to talk/discuss/recommend/buy then demo after uplisting would be very exciting news to investors who have newly discovered this opportunity!

GO Baby, GO

[guy91]

I'm trying to figure out what takes more balls holding on to this stock as a long term or looking for flips along the way. Man, there are so many "shoulda woulda, coulda's" with this stock.

As for me, I've flipped twice. Bought 1500 shares @ 0.52, Sold @ .72... unfortunately I woulda hit big right after I sold it but I bought 2000 back @ $1 and sold today @1.19..... I like the stock, and the company, and it seems promising, but... there's nothing wrong with hit small profits along the way. (I still have 200 shares in, but I have to wait for my main blotch of money to settle before I can buy back in ~ Wednesday. So, contrary to a lot of this forum, I don't want it to jump TOO high these next few days w/o me. ha.)

[themillionaire24]

I have a poll question for the forum. After seeing today;s volume I have to ask, when will be the first day that over 1 million shares of TDCP will trade?

[Aufan 1983]

I'm trying to figure out what takes more balls holding on to this stock as a long term or looking for flips along the way. Man, there are so many "shoulda woulda, coulda's" with this stock.

Your post probably makes more sense than any post today. Its a gamble either way.

I have an entire list of shouldas.......

[Aufan 1983]

I have a poll question for the forum. After seeing today;s volume I have to ask, when will be the first day that over 1 million shares of TDCP will trade?

Tuesday July 10th

We get news of uplisting and explode............ :D

[fortuna1]

Already happened awhile back

[moneytalks]

I have a poll question for the forum. After seeing today;s volume I have to ask, when will be the first day that over 1 million shares of TDCP will trade?

Day after up listing and I "expect" possible news tomorrow so I will say July 11th.

[fu_ming_xia]

I can't do that(flipping)... TD Waterhouse 29 dalla per trade.... lol.. I'm too cheap!

TDCP... to the moon!!!!

[guy91]

I can't do that(flipping)... TD Waterhouse 29 dalla per trade.... lol.. I'm too cheap!

TDCP... to the moon!!!!

geez.... $29/ trade seems kinda steep....

Good luck w/ that.

[fu_ming_xia]

geez.... $29/ trade seems kinda steep....

Good luck w/ that.

Yea, It' linked with my Bank so instant transfers and whatnot... yea it is pricey. Err... which is why I don't flip nuthin.

[WeatherCat]

WOW 3 big blocks just went through and we printed 1.05!!!

[jigar657]

there it goes 1.05 :)

[Visualface]

Boy am i kicking myself for not getting in on this when it was at .33.

[Pilgrim Zero]

Boy am i kicking myself for not getting in on this when it was at .33.

I'm kicking myself for not getting in earlier today when it dropped. But nooooo.... I had to run with SLON today. Not that I'm losing, but still a little more profit would of be nice.

Hey weatherdude, it says that your located in Western Wisconsin, if you don't mind me asking what area are you in?

[WeatherCat]

La Crosse area...Why are you up here also???

[BigHenry]

Boy am i kicking myself for not getting in on this when it was at .33.

No joke, I always saw this thread sitting on top at marketmillionaires but never checked it out untill last thursday. Now I read everything.

[Kazmania]

Talk about a rollercoaster of a day! I don't know what it will do for the chart, but to go up .16 then down .23 to then close up .01 is amazing, especially the recovery to still close green!

[Miami]

even a penny :D still happy I held.

[Pilgrim Zero]

La Crosse area...Why are you up here also???

Not any more, but I was born and lived in Eau Claire until I was 23. I'm in Orlando now. I honestly miss the cold of north. The heat here kills me.

I also miss the cheese... Every winter I actually have my mom send me down like 10 lbs of WI cheese. They can't send it during the summer months so I have to stock up. ;-)

[lovemoney]

Since the close is about near last fri close we won't see near that big a sell off tomorrow morning I'm guessing. That was a pretty big shake out this morning. I bet we won't see that kind of sell off for a few days. I'm thinking tomorrow will be mostly inching up and close with a much nicer high while waiting on the uplisting news.

[MnM]

even a penny :D still happy I held.

My dream of ONE CENT is slowly fading :(

Come on FIVE HUNDRED :D:D

[Aufan 1983]

Since the close is about near last fri close we won't see near that big a sell off tomorrow morning I'm guessing. That was a pretty big shake out this morning. I bet we won't see that kind of sell off for a few days. I'm thinking tomorrow will be mostly inching up and close with a much nicer high while waiting on the uplisting news.

Hope you are right!!! Catfish also brought up a very interesting question. Could it be that we saw the 200,000 shares that were just reg. to sell.... sold this morning?

Who knows but today is without question a victory

[Aufan 1983]

My dream of ONE CENT is slowly fading :(

Come on FIVE HUNDRED :D:D

MnM.... I have to say thats a cool avatar!!!!!!!

[MnM]

Hope you are right!!! Catfish also brought up a very interesting question. Could it be that we saw the 200,000 shares that were just reg. to sell.... sold this morning?

Who knows but today is without question a victory

I think he has to file a Form 144 before he can sell them. I recived no such notice.

[Aufan 1983]

I think he has to file a Form 144 before he can sell them. I recived no such notice.

ROFL..... me either. So now that we have that cleared up.... :D

[WarEAGLE]

Hi all, long time viewer. Haven't posted on marketmillionaires in a very long time, but steadily watching this go up.

Thanks to the Cats (and everyone else) for turning me on to this a while back. It has been rewarding.


From strictly a TA perspective (Which is kinda iffy with the uplisting possibility... errr... probability) Today might be an indicator of reversal correct? We would need confirmation tomorrow, but does anyone agree? disagree? :)


Edited: Looking at intraday... i do like how it steadily rallied from the low midday

[lovemoney]

Hope you are right!!! Catfish also brought up a very interesting question. Could it be that we saw the 200,000 shares that were just reg. to sell.... sold this morning?

Who knows but today is without question a victory

Don't know. But interesting about that number of 200,000 shares. I remember that number caught my eye in the last PR about 3dicon.

TULSA, Okla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 21, 2007--3DIcon Corporation (Pink Sheets: TDCP), a development-stage communications technology company, announced today that it has filed an SB-2 registration statement with the Securities and Exchange Commission to register 3,040,909 shares of its common stock, of which 2,840,909 shares underlie a $1.25 million convertible debenture issued to Golden Gate Investors, Inc. of San Francisco, and 200,000 shares which have been issued to a selling shareholder as compensation for services rendered.

Somebody got a sweet payment for services rendered. Good idea and very smart move on somebody's part instead of requiring a monetary payment. Wish it had been me rendering services, lol :)

[3DCyclone]

My dream of ONE CENT is slowly fading :(

Come on FIVE HUNDRED :D:D

Have to say, I told ya so! ha ha JK

I predicted that we had a better chance of hitting a dollar before we would ever hit one cent on the MM thread.

I predict we will hit $10 before $500! LOL

[MnM]

I remember when almost everyone said it would NEVER go below 1.00


I got close enough to it to get a bunch at .33 :D

Come on FIVE HUNDRED :D:D:D

[WeatherCat]

Nice Pilgrim...Good to see some other "locals" capitalizing on 3D...Actually I'm a transplant but my wife is from the upper midwest. The cheese is great and the stock is green! You can't ask for much more than that can you???

[3DCyclone]

I remember when almost everyone said it would NEVER go below 1.00


I got close enough to it to get a bunch at .33 :D

Come on FIVE HUNDRED :D:D:D

Excellent! Glad to hear you grabbed some and are in the green!

[CatFish]

chart a spinning top posible reversal but we did close up another penny today and ask was at 1.09 we just have to wait and see what tomorow brings:D i think we will continue our journey upwards. small gains is what we want you see what a big fast gain brings

[breakthrough]

As for me, I've flipped twice. Bought 1500 shares @ 0.52, Sold @ .72... unfortunately I woulda hit big right after I sold it but I bought 2000 back @ $1 and sold today @1.19..... I like the stock, and the company, and it seems promising, but... there's nothing wrong with hit small profits along the way. (I still have 200 shares in, but I have to wait for my main blotch of money to settle before I can buy back in ~ Wednesday. So, contrary to a lot of this forum, I don't want it to jump TOO high these next few days w/o me. ha.)


You must have a cash account. If you change it to a margin account, you have access to your funds immediately. And, you don't have to buy stocks on margin. You can still trade just on your available funds.

[lovemoney]

I think today's volume was a new high for this year.

[Miami]

Correct me if I am wrong, but would it be fair to say the way to beat the shorts in anything is to do nothing. Shorts can push price, but they must trust that by pushing the price lower they will panic the remaining holders to sell in order to make their cover like today. If they fail to get this to occur then they are the loosers and not the holders. Anyone think different?

[fortuna1]

I think he has to file a Form 144 before he can sell them. I recived no such notice.

Form 144 has been filed to be able to sell 218,000 shares effective immediately for 90 days.

Did a search on TDCP in the etrade pro news. Did not come up on regular news postings.

[Chaz]

[QUOTE]Form 144 has been filed to be able to sell 218,000 shares effective immediately for 90 days.

QUOTE]

WOW - is there a website that shows that filing?

[Grizzums]

Don't know. But interesting about that number of 200,000 shares. I remember that number caught my eye in the last PR about 3dicon.



Somebody got a sweet payment for services rendered. Good idea and very smart move on somebody's part instead of requiring a monetary payment. Wish it had been me rendering services, lol :)

Those 200k you are referring to were for the attorneys that worked on the sb2.

[fortuna1]

No, the service agency it comes out of is a private service for institution buying and selling.

Not sure why it showed up on my screen. Can't find it anywhere else.

[fortuna1]

Those 200k you are referring to were for the attorneys that worked on the sb2.

Roger and Wanda Hartman?
If they are the attorneys that makes more sense.

[Chaz]

Attached is information that has all the insider trading I can find. The most recent is 6/21/2007 for 8,000 shares and before that 4/23/2007 for 100,000 shares.

Would those be completed by now?

[fortuna1]

Anyone have the sales and buys figures for today?

[fortuna1]

Attached is information that has all the insider trading I can find. The most recent is 6/21/2007 for 8,000 shares and before that 4/23/2007 for 100,000 shares.

Would those be completed by now?

Yes, as far as I can tell.

[Grizzums]

Correct me if I am wrong, but would it be fair to say the way to beat the shorts in anything is to do nothing. Shorts can push price, but they must trust that by pushing the price lower they will panic the remaining holders to sell in order to make their cover like today. If they fail to get this to occur then they are the loosers and not the holders. Anyone think different?

You asking a bigger question then you realiize... There are many shorting strategies and the only real folks that I am at all concerned about in short interest is gg at some point.

As to your question about the best way to beat shorting....simple...and yet not simple... Corporate success.

I do not believe what we witnessed today was any shorting... If I were to speculate, I'd say it was a myriad of things... Dt's, chartists flipping, some actual selling (i.e. Profit taking), and then flippers and others buying back in at decent prices from a good dip...

[fortuna1]

Okay, the Hartmans are attorneys in OK so that's enough of a confirmation for me.

[StickyMetal]

Thanks for fixing the avatar feature cat. Whatever happened today won't happen tomorrow. If some of the investors were flippin, I believe you have to wait a day or two for trades to clear. If it was the finance company selling, well their probably done for awhile. If it was the mms, those shares were bought right back quickly. So, I say were headed up tomorrow. Sticky :)

[Grizzums]

Roger and Wanda Hartman?
If they are the attorneys that makes more sense.

No I don't think so fortuna, I think these we are talking about different shares. I am only referring to the 200k in that pr and it states it clearly in the sb2 itself... Um on my bberry but ill pull out the lt so I can make sure... Regardless, I would not be overly concerned about some folks selling some shares, we are not talking about a lot, and we all know the float is tight on here. Its quite evident from the way this trades and through verification from both ta and sb2 filing.

Edit: sticky, FYI, if one has a margin account with a balance of 25k or more there is no waiting for anything to clear, that's what day trading is.

[Zingpast]

I have a poll question for the forum. After seeing today;s volume I have to ask, when will be the first day that over 1 million shares of TDCP will trade?

According to the Pink Sheets chart, it hit 2.36 million shares in April 2006.

[Grizzums]

Okay, the Hartmans are attorneys in OK so that's enough of a confirmation for me.

Oh cool...nice work fortuna...there are also the attorneys from New York for those other 200k. Ill edit momentarily as soon as I find it, but like I said, the selling of these shares does not bother me...these folks are just getting paid for services rendered.

[StickyMetal]

Edit: sticky, FYI, if one has a margin account with a balance of 25k or more there is no waiting for anything to clear, that's what day trading is.

I guess I don't have 25k in my account. Do stocks count toward the 25k? Sticky

[lovemoney]

Those 200k you are referring to were for the attorneys that worked on the sb2.

Ok, I see.

You mentioned that it states in the SB2 itself about the 200k shares. So you're saying it states who they were given to?

[Grizzums]

I guess I don't have 25k in my account. Do stocks count toward the 25k? Sticky

Yes...but if unrealized/ realized value falls below the 25k, and you make more than 3 rt (round trips) in a 5 day period (I believe that is what it is), then you will receive a notice to deposit funds to bring you up to the 25k mark. Different brokers do things differently about how many warnings you may get before a "freeze" of your account. Don't worry...TDCP will bring you up to that 25k mark in due time...lol ;)

[fortuna1]

quote : Ok, I see.

You mentioned that it states in the SB2 itself about the 200k shares. So you're saying it states who they were given to?



In form 144, it announces the registration of restricted shares issued to Roger and Wanda Hartman, who I found out are attorneys in OK. My questioning is whether these are the shares mentioned in the SB2 for services rendered or just someone selling previously restricted shares. Just nitpicking but interesting to me how this works.:)

[Grizzums]

Ok, I see.

You mentioned that it states in the SB2 itself about the 200k shares. So you're saying it states who they were given to?

Yes.

"Sichenzia Ross
Friedman Ference LLP

200,000

**

200,000

Gregory Sichenzia, Esq.
Sichenzia Ross Friedman Ference LLP
61 Broadway, 32 nd Floor
New York, New York 10006
(212) 930-9700
(212) 930-9725 (fax)"

Whether or not this "selling shareholder" actually sells these shares, we probably won't know because I do not believe they will have to file a form 144 (others may, but not these ones) because they are being registered and classified as such already in the sb2


"This prospectus relates to the resale of the common stock underlying the initial $1.25 million convertible debenture and the shares issued to the selling stockholder as consideration for services rendered for a total of 3,040,909 shares. Such amount represents approximately 4% of our "public float".

[lovemoney]

services rendered for a total of 3,040,909 shares. Such amount represents approximately 4% of our "public float".

Nice!!! Those folks must believe this is gonna go somewhere! :)

[MnM]

Form 144 has been filed to be able to sell 218,000 shares effective immediately for 90 days.

Did a search on TDCP in the etrade pro news. Did not come up on regular news postings.

Thanks for the DD fort ;)

[fortuna1]

Thanks for the DD fort ;)

You're welcome. Hopefully, my next piece of DD will include something about an uplisting...;)

[Miami]

You asking a bigger question then you realiize... There are many shorting strategies and the only real folks that I am at all concerned about in short interest is gg at some point.

As to your question about the best way to beat shorting....simple...and yet not simple... Corporate success.

I do not believe what we witnessed today was any shorting... If I were to speculate, I'd say it was a myriad of things... Dt's, chartists flipping, some actual selling (i.e. Profit taking), and then flippers and others buying back in at decent prices from a good dip...
I know that I for one got alittle scared and sick and I did think about selling when It was close to .80 today but I just knew ,in my opinion, that that's what others were doing and it made a great buying opportunity for those who have been standing on the side lines to jump on board. So I drank a 6 pack to calm my nerves and then watched it climb back up. Dont get me wrong, I too would flip and try and make a few bucks. But right now that is very dangerous. (Dangerous to my Bank account.:eek:) In my opinion, you might get away with it a few times but at this point in time it is risky. Just as one makes a few bucks you can loose a few bucks. It is just too unpredictable right now... In the long run I know I will be safe. I was just thinking that some of the other guys might have started dumping because that's exactly what I was thinking some of the shorts, and heavy flippers want them to do and some may have fell for it. I know how I would feel though if I sold on a dip and then the price got a lot of momentum and I couldn't get back on and missed out on the whole ride as it shoots through the atmosphere at warp nine and was left behind and had to listen to Al Gore give lectures on how TDCP is bad for the environment and is ripping holes in our atmosphere :D:D:D

[fortuna1]

Can someone post time and sales for today?
thx

[CatFish]

Can someone post time and sales for today?
thx

on the right of the forum type tdcp in the stock quote box then on the top bar when you get to quote area their will be a section that says depth/L2 and that will tell you

[Miami]

Can someone post time and sales for today?
thx

This is all I have. There were alot of trades today: No way for me to post them all. Maybe some one else might be able to.

Time & Sales
Price Size Exch Time
1.05 500 OTO 15:58:01
1.05 500 OTO 15:57:57
1.047 1500 OTO 15:57:11
1.047 500 OTO 15:57:09
1.05 500 OTO 15:57:09
1.05 500 OTO 15:56:54
1.02 100 OTO 15:56:05
1.05 3965 OTO 15:49:48
1.02 7500 OTO 15:48:12
1.05 7500 OTO 15:48:08
1.05 500 OTO 15:44:18
1.05 12535 OTO 15:42:44
1.01 12535 OTO 15:42:44
1.01 500 OTO 15:42:41
1.00 16700 OTO 15:42:39
1.01 1000 OTO 15:09:59
1.00 2500 OTO 15:07:23
1.01 500 OTO 15:07:01
1.02 5000 OTO 15:07:00
1.01 1000 OTO 15:06:45
1.01 1000 OTO 15:06:25
1.01 750 OTO 14:49:16
1.01 100 OTO 14:04:02
1.00 800 OTO 13:55:34
1.01 800 OTO 13:53:49
1.01 900 OTO 13:53:29
0.95 3000 OTO 13:47:25
0.98 2500 OTO 13:41:26
0.98 109 OTO 13:37:51
0.98 5000 OTO 13:37:50

[Miami]

on the right of the forum type tdcp in the stock quote box then on the top bar when you get to quote area their will be a section that says depth/L2 and that will tell you
Thanx Catfish! I didnt even see that there. It makes it alot easier cuz I have been going to Traders Nation. But now I dont have to.

[themillionaire24]

on the right of the forum type tdcp in the stock quote box then on the top bar when you get to quote area their will be a section that says depth/L2 and that will tell you

sweet, but it says L2 is only available in real time. Is that just because the market is closed?

[Aufan 1983]

I snapped this picture of Cat when we hit todays low of .81


http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q249/aufan1983/possessed-cat.jpg

[CactusPowered]

I snapped this picture of Cat when we hit todays low of .81


http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q249/aufan1983/possessed-cat.jpg

Aufan, you crack me up. Always with the crazy catfish pics! although, I think i found one of catfish..it's a cat...fish!! a little scary, that was snapped shortly after yours...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/fireydoom/catfish.jpg

[MnM]

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/fireydoom/catfish.jpg

Are you sure thats not an MM :eek:

[fortuna1]

on the right of the forum type tdcp in the stock quote box then on the top bar when you get to quote area their will be a section that says depth/L2 and that will tell you

Thanks Cat,
Thats a great addition to the site.
It shows some trades - about the last hour I think.
It might be too daunting to look at the whole day...

[CactusPowered]

Are you sure thats not an MM :eek:


hmm you may be right, he does look scary. i don't think catfish is scary at all! maybe that is an MM!

[fortuna1]

Are you sure thats not an MM :eek:

Here come the nightmares...LOL

[Aufan 1983]

Aufan, you crack me up. Always with the crazy catfish pics! although, I think i found one of catfish..it's a cat...fish!! a little scary, that was snapped shortly after yours...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/fireydoom/catfish.jpg

Wow.... :eek: That one has to be an offspring of the cat I posted today. I showed that picture to my boxer and he just whined and ran away.....rofl

[btltreasures]

on the right of the forum type tdcp in the stock quote box then on the top bar when you get to quote area their will be a section that says depth/L2 and that will tell you


Nice feature to have. Thanks Cats

[BigHenry]

Is there a way to see the whole days trading?

[CatFish]

Aufan, you crack me up. Always with the crazy catfish pics! although, I think i found one of catfish..it's a cat...fish!! a little scary, that was snapped shortly after yours...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/fireydoom/catfish.jpg

can you tell i love your catfish. my stomach hurts from laughing so hard. thanks

[seagull339]

Just returned from a seagull trip. Saw the first-half hour of trading today and was blown away when it hit 120. Later, I found it had gone back to the 80s. Got back to the nest and saw it had closed at 1.05 which is a good price with high volume.

Did anyone notice other boards, web sites, stock picks, etc. that were highlighting tdcp?

(I'm trying to come up with a flying seagull avatar 80 x 80 pixels but no luck so far.)

[DDawg]

best i could do for a dancing razorback..

http://www.housecall4pc.com/gohogs.gif

WOOOOOOOPIIIGSOOOOOOIE!!

[Aufan 1983]

best i could do for a dancing razorback..

http://www.housecall4pc.com/gohogs.gif

Razorback.... I have just now gained my composure enough to type. If that razorback is dancing its dirty dancing :eek:.....ROFL. I'm still laughing so hard I'm crying......

[CactusPowered]

Razorback.... I have just now gained my composure enough to type. If that razorback is dancing its dirty dancing :eek:.....ROFL. I'm still laughing so hard I'm crying......


LOL!!! now that you mention it, it is kinda getting jiggy with razor's name, hahaha...oh boy this is what we resort to when we get the TDCP fever, lol....

[lovemoney]

Is that a razorback or a hunch(ing)-razorback?lol

Just checking to see if there were any late night sleepless TDCP people hanging out again.

May see a steady smooth rise in price today as opposed to yesterday's steep fall and rise. But never know lol.

[orange]

Is there a way to see the whole days trading?
busa-- if you go to finance.yahoo.com and enter the symbol you can see a tiny chart for the day

[moneytalks]

best i could do for a dancing razorback..

http://www.housecall4pc.com/gohogs.gif

Hope your razorback don't start reproducing like rabbits because if it does it will take over... you can tell by the "dancing" razorback that you're a newly wed that is on vacation...;):D

[btltreasures]

So far there is no 7am pr as they ususally put out.

[Aufan 1983]

So far there is no 7am pr as they ususally put out.

Thats my exact thoughts. Hopefully after the market opens they will catch the mm's by surprise.

[btltreasures]

Thats my exact thoughts. Hopefully after the market opens they will catch the mm's by surprise.



I am totally for that.

[moneytalks]

I am totally for that.

If we have no PR by tomorrow yesterday's low may look like a GREAT price. :(

[WeatherCat]

All good things come in due time gentlemen...What we did accomplish yesterday in my opinion was shake out lots of weak hands with that violent ride. Not to go comedy central on everyone but as most probably realize...MK will "get er done" when the time is right. I can't see another day for 3D like monday...Looking for a steady rise today if no news is announced...

[missionsman1]

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/index.jsp

This is the service they use for the PR'S

[missionsman1]

1.02 X 1.09 Looks like they don't want to let it run right now

Thats a 7 cent spread!

[3DCyclone]

And we're out of the gates... print 1.09

Strike that, bid and ask just dropped.

[missionsman1]

They dropped it now down to .94 X 1.02

[missionsman1]

Did you see that? It looked like ask was 1.01 and one went through for 1.09:eek:

[fortuna1]

Thats just a freaky start. sales at 1.09 when the ask is 1.01

[seagull339]

What does an 8 cent difference between bid and ask mean?

[missionsman1]

Looks like their really playing around with this this morning. They know there is probably a lot of eyes on this one this morning and going for the mind games imo.

[CatFish]

mm's trying to cause a panic sell off. they held them trades back and dropped it hopeing to get people to sell

[3DCyclone]

I bet that trade was posted late after the Bid and Ask dropped. That's all.

[Zingpast]

What does an 8 cent difference between bid and ask mean?

It probably means that a MM is trying to put a kid through college.

[BullishBear]

mm's trying to cause a panic sell off. they held them trades back and dropped it hopeing to get people to sell

hey guys, no real time to flollow lately, but i'm curious if the 200K shares mention in sb2 were dumped yesterday, accounting for the big drop and prodigious volume. if so, we held up extremely well. has anyone looked at the intraday 15/30 to see if that was a chunk that brought it down or if the mm's walked it down?

either way, lot's of itchy mouse fingers today i bet. may be worth watching the rsi and flipping a few shares.

[Popcan]

Up yesterday $11,000, then down $20,000, then close up $650. What a swing. Like I said yesterday, if I could feel comfortable enough flipping this thing and be successful at it, WOW! Here's hoping for another green day:D

Good luck all!

[Miami]

mm's trying to cause a panic sell off. they held them trades back and dropped it hopeing to get people to sell
I agree!!!:mad:

[Grizzums]

It probably means that a MM is trying to put a kid through college.

rofl... :)

[guy91]

Can someone easily explain what to expect (if anything) when there's such a huge difference between the bid and ask price? ... right now it seems to be 0.87 x 1.11....

[WeatherCat]

Somewhat benign volume compared to yesterday...Nobody gonna sell their shares today...Just sitting and waiting it out until ignition occurs...

[fortuna1]

Crickets...

[fortuna1]

Can someone easily explain what to expect (if anything) when there's such a huge difference between the bid and ask price? ... right now it seems to be 0.87 x 1.11....

B and A is .94 and 1.00
they set it that way to stop a run, whether up or down. Or if it runs anyway they make a big profit.

[Miami]

I think that itll sit there for awhile steady and then as we go through the day it will start to climb again.

[themillionaire24]

wow, i had an order in to sell 10% of my shares at 1.00 to see what kind of buying pressure we had. i then decided to change the limit to 1.10, and I saw the ask go up to 1.05. I guess I was the only one selling there. lol
That is a good sign. We just need some buyers

[fortuna1]

Can someone easily explain what to expect (if anything) when there's such a huge difference between the bid and ask price? ... right now it seems to be 0.87 x 1.11....

It also keeps flippers from doing their thing because it's such a wide difference.

[Miami]

It also keeps flippers from doing their thing because it's such a wide difference.
And thats a good thing right now.

[3DCyclone]

It also keeps flippers from doing their thing because it's such a wide difference.

Very good point fortuna1. They don't want to let anyone accumulate more shares by flipping, thus reducing the tradable float even more. Assuming you hold these shares long term. Controls it from running too.

[themillionaire24]

the MM's are playing games like crazy today. I saw the ask dropped to 1.03, so I wanted to test the MM's. I set a sell of 500 shares at 1.02 to drop the ask to 1.02. then about 30 seconds later a removed my sell to see if the ask would still be at 1.03. Of course it wasn't, it was up at 1.05. Whoever dropped the ask to 1.03 removed their sell once I put mine lower.
Sounds like somebody was simply trying to cause some selling without selling his own shares.

[Popcan]

Am I understanding this correctly that we are already on page 45 three days into Stockmarketcats.com? There's definitely some buzz going on around here. I can't remember ever generating the amount of posts we have recently.

[rtace]

Found this while researching for piggyback status clarification
Tells how one will have to satisfy the 211 filing, which will be important for tdcp, some good reading,

http://www.pinksheets.com/otcguide/brokers_index.jsp

[Zingpast]

Found this while researching for piggyback status clarification
Tells how one will have to satisfy the 211 filing, which will be important for tdcp, some good reading,

http://www.pinksheets.com/otcguide/brokers_index.jsp

3DIcon already successfully filed a Form 211 with the NASD (to get on the Pinks in 2003). We have solid, accepted history here. This 211 (again, to the NASD) should go through like a hot knife through butter.

[stockit]

It probably means that a MM is trying to put a kid through college.

LOL..That was a funny statement yet so true!..LOL

[Miami]

It jumped there for a second.

[missionsman1]

Did you see that 1.05 go through? Followed by a .97.

Ha, They must have their sons and or daughters there with them ,saying. to them,

" Wanna see how daddy makes money today?"

[Foxtrot]

I cant belive how much attention this thread gets here. I hope its a good indicator of this stock because I just opened an e-trade account just so I can buy some of this. I was going to do it a while back when it was .35 but noooo I had to put it off and now its 1.00:(
I have to wait a couple more days for everything to clear so I can send more than $100 to my account. Hopre this one has one ore good drop in it.:p

[JAM]

What is going on here. Order went thru @ 1.05 and the ask immediately dropped to .98. Then 2 seconds later an order fills at .97

[Aufan 1983]

It appears we may be done until we see some type of official word from 3DICON. I think until then I will watch some paint dry....lol

[Wxguru]

I am an Okie (although moving to Arkansas in 6 weeks).
I got a tip on this stock from a friend, and I opened a Scottrade account. Only sucky thing is, I have a pending deposit....but it will be Friday before I can buy in (go figure....using money direct still takes 3 business days...how is that direct?) :mad: :(
I can only hope any news or anything significant can hold off until monday.
I am in once the money shows up.

[missionsman1]

ABLE is on the bid and ask right now.
NITE is on the ask at 1.08 below ABLE

[3DCyclone]

Anybody see the thread Catfish started with the hot news? Aufan and I saw it.

[Zingpast]

It appears we may be done until we see some type of official word from 3DICON. I think until then I will watch some paint dry....lol

Yep, bedtime in Fujisawa. you got the helm...g'night!

[Miami]

It would appear it has a strong support here. Good buying opportunity for the side liners. Last call last call next stop the planet Xartas. ( Come on uplist!!! :D)

[fortuna1]

What is going on here. Order went thru @ 1.05 and the ask immediately dropped to .98. Then 2 seconds later an order fills at .97

MM's walking it down

[fortuna1]

Anybody see the thread Catfish started with the hot news? Aufan and I saw it.

Really great news. Very exciting. I might just go for a drive.:)

[rblight]

For the newbies here, what does it mean when a MM walks a stock down? What do they gain from doing this. I think I have the basic gist of it, but an explanation would be helpful.

[stock-up]

Anybody see the thread Catfish started with the hot news? Aufan and I saw it.

I wanna find it where do I look. I want hot news!

[3DCyclone]

its on the thread that states something like Big News Tdcp fans!!

LOL when you find it... He posted it yesterday. :D

[fortuna1]

LOL when you find it... He posted it yesterday. :D

Couldn't live with himself. LOL

[BadThad]

For the newbies here, what does it mean when a MM walks a stock down? What do they gain from doing this. I think I have the basic gist of it, but an explanation would be helpful.

MM's make their money on the spread, difference between bid/ask prices. If the bids are low, they may snatch those up and gradually drop the ask price to keep trading active....after all....they don't make money unless there's trading going on. So, ever so gradually, the price of the stock keeps dropping, i.e. "Walking Down".

Hope that helps!

[fu_ming_xia]

Dang,... Slow day on the blocks today! AHHAH GOOD! No actions for the MMs....err and no action for us.!

Martin Keating where you at playboy!??? I needs me some NEWS!!! LOL! :D

I just want to see what the technology can do....

I hope it's crazy sick, not ghetto like this....
http://www.3dtl.com/slide4.jpg

[Pillzilla]

not much volume today

[scmfinance]

For the newbies here, what does it mean when a MM walks a stock down? What do they gain from doing this. I think I have the basic gist of it, but an explanation would be helpful.

Rule #1: Don't play games with MMs -- you'll lose every time.

The job of MMs is to make the market. In other words, their job is to buy stock from you when you want to sell it so you don't have to wait for another buyer to buy it from you. And vice versa when it comes time for you to buy stock. For example, if you have 100 shares and want to sell that 100 shares but there are no buyers who want to buy 100 shares, MMs will buy the shares from you and wait for a buyer to come along. Due to the fact that there is an inherent risk in buying and holding the stock until another buyer comes along, MMs get to make a profit from the trade -- to hedge their risk. They make that profit from the spread -- the difference between the bid and the ask.

In addition, their job is to keep markets stable and not allow others to exploit the market. For example, if you take a look at ATLB, you'll see the stock is up 20% on a volume of 600. It has been doing this for a number of days -- going up a ridiculous amount percentage wise on very little volume and then falling back down. Someone really wants the stock to look attractive to scans and has been trying to push it up buying just a few shares -- however, in order to prevent a run, the MMs keep the spread very large.

IMO MMs are demonized and targeted more often than they should be. When a stock doesn't trade like a trader wants, it's pretty easy to pick out the MMs and hold them responsible because most traders don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes.

[3DCyclone]

Can someone outline all the steps that 3DIcon has to take to uplist at this point? Are they waiting on approval from the SEC or what has to happen?

I briefly glanced at the OTC site yesterday, but only saw something about the Form 211, which Zingpast said was a no brainer at this point.

[Grizzums]

Rule #1: Don't play games with MMs -- you'll lose every time.

The job of MMs is to make the market. In other words, their job is to buy stock from you when you want to sell it so you don't have to wait for another buyer to buy it from you. And vice versa when it comes time for you to buy stock. For example, if you have 100 shares and want to sell that 100 shares but there are no buyers who want to buy 100 shares, MMs will buy the shares from you and wait for a buyer to come along. Due to the fact that there is an inherent risk in buying and holding the stock until another buyer comes along, MMs get to make a profit from the trade -- to hedge their risk. They make that profit from the spread -- the difference between the bid and the ask.

In addition, their job is to keep markets stable and not allow others to exploit the market. For example, if you take a look at ATLB, you'll see the stock is up 20% on a volume of 600. It has been doing this for a number of days -- going up a ridiculous amount percentage wise on very little volume and then falling back down. Someone really wants the stock to look attractive to scans and has been trying to push it up buying just a few shares -- however, in order to prevent a run, the MMs keep the spread very large.

IMO MMs are demonized and targeted more often than they should be. When a stock doesn't trade like a trader wants, it's pretty easy to pick out the MMs and hold them responsible because most traders don't have a clue what's going on behind the scenes.
Nice post Sean, your thoughts reflect my opinion as well.

[rblight]

Yes, thanks for the info guys. Lots to learn, but I am already loving being in the markets.

[scmfinance]

Nice post Sean, your thoughts reflect my opinion as well.

Thanks.

Obviously, the more and more you watch the markets, you'll begin to recognize their games and in effect, get out of their way. And when I said the comment about most traders, I meant myself as well. It's such a secretive world that it's really hard for most of us to understand what goes on in their heads. The only thing we know is that they are tasked to "make markets" and make a profit doing so. So if you ever find a former MM, buy them a drink and find out all you can ;)

[fortuna1]

Something wrong with the thread, can only access it from my history and not from the home page...

[CatFish]

having technical dificulties should be fixed soon

[fortuna1]

good buys at .96
Maybe an EOD run in the making...

[4Stocks]

I am a long time TDCP share holder and have been sitting on the sidelines for a few days observing this thread from a distance. I watched the MM thread for a while and participated in it just before everyone made the move to this site. I do want to say as I did on MM that I am believer in this stock or I would have taken profits and ran long ago. I do however have a problem with the "little to no communication" that comes from 3DICON. There’s been much said about the SEC filing on this thread as well as MM and I too know that it was no small task and was VERY expensive to the tune of $200,000 or so. I’ve heard it said over and over that press releases are expensive and MK doesn’t want to waste money on useless ones until it’s difficult to swallow. I can appreciate this thought to a degree but when you spend $200,000 to file the SEC filings and this is going to bigger than the internet I would hope they could afford a press release to at least say we can expect to up listed in X amount of days. I have struggled in the past when months go by and we hear NOTHING from them and it seems we may be entering one of these stretches again and it is discouraging. If 3DICON is going to change the communication world as we know it would be GREAT if that started by communicating with share holders. If they think it to expensive to do a press release I would bet we could get the share holders on this site to chip in and pay for it. Call it good business if you like when you try to save bucks by not doing PRs but I call it a poor decision when shares holders are left wondering what is going on. I know I’ll get blasted for saying all this but I am voicing what many of you are thinking. :mad::confused:

[3DCyclone]

I am a long time TDCP share holder and have been sitting on the sidelines for a few days observing this thread from a distance. I watched the MM thread for a while and participated in it just before everyone made the move to this site. I do want to say as I did on MM that I am believer in this stock or I would have taken profits and ran long ago. I do however have a problem with the "little to no communication" that comes from 3DICON. There’s been much said about the SEC filing on this thread as well as MM and I too know that it was no small task and was VERY expensive to the tune of $200,000 or so. I’ve heard it said over and over that press releases are expensive and MK doesn’t want to waste money on useless ones until it’s difficult to swallow. I can appreciate this thought to a degree but when you spend $200,000 to file the SEC filings and this is going to bigger than the internet I would hope they could afford a press release to at least say we can expect to up listed in X amount of days. I have struggled in the past when months go by and we hear NOTHING from them and it seems we may be entering one of these stretches again and it is discouraging. If 3DICON is going to change the communication world as we know it would be GREAT if that started by communicating with share holders. If they think it to expensive to do a press release I would bet we could get the share holders on this site to chip in and pay for it. Call it good business if you like when you try to save bucks by not doing PRs but I call it a poor decision when shares holders are left wondering what is going on. I know I’ll get blasted for saying all this but I am voicing what many of you are thinking. :mad::confused:


I believe their attorney's have a lot to do with what they can say or not say. It's not Martin's style to put out fluff PR's that say were are going to uplist on such or such date, but rather post after the deal is done! He is a tight mofo too! Nothing wrong with that. IMO

[Pillzilla]

It might bite me in the ass, but I am still waiting to buy back in for more shares...sold premature at .86 but ensured profits. I have seen the should be coming news put off way longer than expected too many times. I held my last set of shares over a year before i got back to green.....hope not to do that again.

[CatFish]

i think in this case he is not beeing tight. i beleive he does not want to say a date because it is something he has no control over so waiting for aproval. this is the last leg then a done deal

[Aufan 1983]

I am a long time TDCP share holder and have been sitting on the sidelines for a few days observing this thread from a distance. I watched the MM thread for a while and participated in it just before everyone made the move to this site. I do want to say as I did on MM that I am believer in this stock or I would have taken profits and ran long ago. I do however have a problem with the "little to no communication" that comes from 3DICON. There’s been much said about the SEC filing on this thread as well as MM and I too know that it was no small task and was VERY expensive to the tune of $200,000 or so. I’ve heard it said over and over that press releases are expensive and MK doesn’t want to waste money on useless ones until it’s difficult to swallow. I can appreciate this thought to a degree but when you spend $200,000 to file the SEC filings and this is going to bigger than the internet I would hope they could afford a press release to at least say we can expect to up listed in X amount of days. I have struggled in the past when months go by and we hear NOTHING from them and it seems we may be entering one of these stretches again and it is discouraging. If 3DICON is going to change the communication world as we know it would be GREAT if that started by communicating with share holders. If they think it to expensive to do a press release I would bet we could get the share holders on this site to chip in and pay for it. Call it good business if you like when you try to save bucks by not doing PRs but I call it a poor decision when shares holders are left wondering what is going on. I know I’ll get blasted for saying all this but I am voicing what many of you are thinking. :mad::confused:

Wow 4Stocks!! You made a nice entry....lol I'm almost certain you will feel the tdcp wrath very soon. :eek: I'm a tdcp faithful and long but I have never seen a stock cast a spell upon people like this one has (myself included) other than cshd and that scares the @#$% out of me.

I think we will be fine and things will happen but you do have some excellent points that I have to admit have ran through my head but I'm like MK and stay quite about it....rofl

Go ahead and bend over because I'm sure your thrashing is about to begin....lol

EDIT: I forgot one thing....take another sip like I do and you will be fine...rofl....http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q249/aufan1983/beryblue.jpg

[NNP]

The uplisting could even take longer It doesnt have to be 2 days or 5 days. It is just when it is done-its) Out of our hands.
We all want to see green but this seems to be the real deal.
IT WILL HAPPEN JUST BUY WHAT YOU CAN AND HOLD ON):)

[WeatherCat]

I am a long time TDCP share holder and have been sitting on the sidelines for a few days observing this thread from a distance. I watched the MM thread for a while and participated in it just before everyone made the move to this site. I do want to say as I did on MM that I am believer in this stock or I would have taken profits and ran long ago. I do however have a problem with the "little to no communication" that comes from 3DICON. There’s been much said about the SEC filing on this thread as well as MM and I too know that it was no small task and was VERY expensive to the tune of $200,000 or so. I’ve heard it said over and over that press releases are expensive and MK doesn’t want to waste money on useless ones until it’s difficult to swallow. I can appreciate this thought to a degree but when you spend $200,000 to file the SEC filings and this is going to bigger than the internet I would hope they could afford a press release to at least say we can expect to up listed in X amount of days. I have struggled in the past when months go by and we hear NOTHING from them and it seems we may be entering one of these stretches again and it is discouraging. If 3DICON is going to change the communication world as we know it would be GREAT if that started by communicating with share holders. If they think it to expensive to do a press release I would bet we could get the share holders on this site to chip in and pay for it. Call it good business if you like when you try to save bucks by not doing PRs but I call it a poor decision when shares holders are left wondering what is going on. I know I’ll get blasted for saying all this but I am voicing what many of you are thinking. :mad::confused:

This is a great reason for the forum here...4 Stocks you have every right to ask why there has been no PR to this point. And of course others in here with tons and tons more knowledge that myself will try to re-assure you that it is indeed coming. I also believe this but there is no firm date as you well know. But allowing yourself to ask others has at least given you a medium to vent a little and hopefully that in itself makes getting through all of this a little easier. We'll all be laughing about this waiting game we played for the PR in the not too distant future I'm sure.

[fu_ming_xia]

.......will this hurry up and hit google prices already..... LOL! I need to move out of my parents place!!!!! LOL!!

[3DCyclone]

This is a great reason for the forum here...4 Stocks you have every right to ask why there has been no PR to this point. And of course others in here with tons and tons more knowledge that myself will try to re-assure you that it is indeed coming. I also believe this but there is no firm date as you well know. But allowing yourself to ask others has at least given you a medium to vent a little and hopefully that in itself makes getting through all of this a little easier. We'll all be laughing about this waiting game we played for the PR in the not too distant future I'm sure.

Laughing to the bank! LOL

Hang in there 4stocks. Our day will come and like Weatherdude said, it's not too far off. This stock will teach you patience, that is for sure! Buying more during these times tends to relieve the stress! LOL

[4Stocks]

Laughing to the bank! LOL

Hang in there 4stocks. Our day will come and like Weatherdude said, it's not too far off. This stock will teach you patience, that is for sure! Buying more during these times tends to relieve the stress! LOL

I hope you guys are right before I have steal my mother-in-laws nerve medication.

[lovemoney]

Volume is low.

[4Stocks]

I believe their attorney's have a lot to do with what they can say or not say. It's not Martin's style to put out fluff PR's that say were are going to uplist on such or such date, but rather post after the deal is done! He is a tight mofo too! Nothing wrong with that. IMO

I am not sure what MK's style is and there's a BIG difference in fluff and no prs.

[Miami]

Theres alot of buys happening at .95

[Aufan 1983]

One last post and I have to do real work.

Anyone that is worried think about it like this. We all love to see green and lots of it, right? What if the price was now sitting @ 2.50 and we were waiting on news would you sell? Probably not. If not what if someone ask to buy your shares @ 10.00 each but the catch was you could never buy tdcp again at any price, would you sell? hmmm Don't know? I don't think I would. I came into this world naked and toothless and will not carry anything with me when I leave so I'm going to try and make the best of it while here. If tdcp hits there will be alot of wealthy people here but if not I would bet none of us will lose our house or go hungry.

Its worth the shot and probably our best shot at becoming wealthy. Good things take time but have you ever noticed how bad things can happen real fast.

To borrow and change a line from the movie Tombstone. You tell the naysayers we are coming. Tell them we are coming and hell is coming with us.

We are about to blow the minds of all the naysayers!!!!!!!

This promotional speech brought to you by friends of TDCP

[WeatherCat]

Yes volume is picking up now...Time for the late afternoon pop perhaps...We could use a nice run to end a rather boring day. Then an after hours PR would spice things up just a little...:D

[Miami]

It also looks like the spread between the ask and bid is tighting up since this morning.

[Kuzami]

I don't mind all the waiting, it's giving me a chance to add to my position before it really takes off. For those of us getting in late, it's a blessing;)

[lovemoney]

The uplisting is gonna happen, the fee was paid, the form was filed, just waiting for someone to get to it.

[Dangerman]

I've been waiting on this stock for a long time now. I don't think a couple days will hurt. ;)

[NNP]

My wife got very mad at me yesterday because I was running to the comp all day to see what in the world was going on with this stock.
I was going crazy with the stock. Once I came to reality I was better. By the way she will love it (and me more) when it hits. :cool:

[3DCyclone]

One last post and I have to do real work.

Anyone that is worried think about it like this. We all love to see green and lots of it, right? What if the price was now sitting @ 2.50 and we were waiting on news would you sell? Probably not. If not what if someone ask to buy your shares @ 10.00 each but the catch was you could never buy tdcp again at any price, would you sell? hmmm Don't know? I don't think I would. I came into this world naked and toothless and will not carry anything with me when I leave so I'm going to try and make the best of it while here. If tdcp hits there will be alot of wealthy people here but if not I would bet none of us will lose our house or go hungry.

Its worth the shot and probably our best shot at becoming wealthy. Good things take time but have you ever noticed how bad things can happen real fast.

To borrow and change a line from the movie Tombstone. You tell the naysayers we are coming. Tell them we are coming and hell is coming with us.

We are about to blow the minds of all the naysayers!!!!!!!

This promotional speech brought to you by friends of TDCP

Dyin' ain't much of a livin' Son! LOL (borrowed from Clint Squint!)

[4Stocks]

One last post and I have to do real work.

Anyone that is worried think about it like this. We all love to see green and lots of it, right? What if the price was now sitting @ 2.50 and we were waiting on news would you sell? Probably not. If not what if someone ask to buy your shares @ 10.00 each but the catch was you could never buy tdcp again at any price, would you sell? hmmm Don't know? I don't think I would. I came into this world naked and toothless and will not carry anything with me when I leave so I'm going to try and make the best of it while here. If tdcp hits there will be alot of wealthy people here but if not I would bet none of us will lose our house or go hungry.

Its worth the shot and probably our best shot at becoming wealthy. Good things take time but have you ever noticed how bad things can happen real fast.

To borrow and change a line from the movie Tombstone. You tell the naysayers we are coming. Tell them we are coming and hell is coming with us.

We are about to blow the minds of all the naysayers!!!!!!!

This promotional speech brought to you by friends of TDCP

I agree, "I think". I do have a question for you. Are you the guy that said you from running naked to being sick yerterday when we took that wild trip with the flippers? If so and I am agreeing with you this thing is getting real scary.

[Miami]

My wife got very mad at me yesterday because I was running to the comp all day to see what in the world was going on with this stock.
I was going crazy with the stock. Once I came to reality I was better. By the way she will love it (and me more) when it hits. :cool:Im with you bro. Its crazy how we are. Every 5 minutes I have to check the computer too.

[Foxtrot]

If they think it to expensive to do a press release I would bet we could get the share holders on this site to chip in and pay for it.

I dont really know, I used to think they were expensive, but I've been told by other companies that press releases do not cost that mush.
Example a guy in sales with (I belive it was) told me once they can put out a PR for as little as $50.

[Kuzami]

With all the buying for the last hour and a half, shouldn't that make the pps go up (instead of the continued climb downward that we're seeing...)?

[NNP]

Did TD put out the PR at the first of the day before or has it been at the end.
What is MK history of PR releases?
Does anyone know

[4Stocks]

I dont really know, I used to think they were expensive, but I've been told by other companies that press releases do not cost that mush.
Example a guy in sales with (I belive it was) told me once they can put out a PR for as little as $50.

Now that helps my feelngs! $50, are you kidding me? If that's the case i am stealing my mother-in-laws nerve medication and pain pills.... so wake me up when it's over.

[lovemoney]

With all the buying for the last hour and a half, shouldn't that make the pps go up (instead of the continued climb downward that we're seeing...)?

I think it bottomed at .94 It's .95 last trade. It should start back up. Volume is increasing.

[CactusPowered]

Did TD put out the PR at the first of the day before or has it been at the end.
What is MK history of PR releases?
Does anyone know

The last couple have been at 7:00am EST.

[lovemoney]

I picked up some at .95. Nice opportunity in the drop as I see it.

[fu_ming_xia]

Im with you bro. Its crazy how we are. Every 5 minutes I have to check the computer too.

DUDE... I'm at work... every 2 minutes I refresh both stock market cats, AND, my real time quotes. We're all gonna be either very rich or poor with A-D-D! LOL!

[Miami]

I think it bottomed at .94 It's .95 last trade. It should start back up. Volume is increasing.
I just dont see it closing this low. It'll go back up here soon.

[guy91]

I'm on a cash account, so I'm waiting for my funds to be available for re-invesment after selling yesterday morning @1.19. Does anybody have good avice as to selecting a bottom point to buy back in? or should I wait until demo's appear/ the stock gets uplisted?

The last 5 days here have been pretty crazy...