HYPF- HYPOWER FUEL INC-Penny Stock- Alternate Energy

[Aufan 1983]

I'm no longer in this stock but it had a fairly good size following at mm so wanted to start a thread here.

Hypower Fuel Inc. is engaged in the alternative energy sector specializing in hydrogen production and hydrogen related products. The Company has developed technologies that aim to reduce dependence on fossil fuels while seeking to eliminate harmful toxic emissions. The Company's products include Hydro Power PAK, (HPP) Hydrogen Reactor (H2R), Interface Control Module (ICM) and Bio-Lube. Prototypes of HPP were built and tested on various engines and steps were taken to perfect and verify the reductions attained by injecting hydrogen into gasoline and diesel engines. The Company's research and development facility has expanded to include two engine test cells, an electronics lab, a fabrication shop, and various test benches with testing apparatus.


HYPF on Google Finance (http://finance.google.com/finance?q=hypf)

[Guthrie]

If anyone is wondering why this stock might be a good one, it's because of their potential product, the H2 Reactor that separates hydrogen from oxygen in water and uses the H2 for fuel. There's supposed to be 4 videos coming out, originally scheduled for march. This is where I begin to dislike these guys. The first video came out June 18, the rest are still MIA. Supposedly they're doing video editing trying to make it perfect (that's what I remember from the old boards).
The next few videos are going to show the technical side of the product as the first was really just a teaser.
I emailed the IR guy a few days ago asking what the hold up was and addressed my concerns about these delays with no communication but haven't heard back. If anyone is up for calling him here's his info:

Stephen Taylor,
Taylor Capital, Inc.

Phone: (973) 351-3868
Fax: (973) 453-8385
email: ir@hypowerfuel.com

[forecastgreen]

This stock is a great buy imo. Constantly hearing about the use of electrolyzers to produce water from Hydrogen. Particularly using renewable energy sources.

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=610426&category=BUSINESS&newsdate=7/31/2007

Patrick Serfass, director of program and technology development for the National Hydrogen Association in Washington, D.C., was at the expo Monday. He said the industry wants to develop hydrogen supply through electrolysis only by using clean sources of electricity, made through solar, wind, hydro or nuclear energy.

The more you look, the more you will find.

Appears apparent that the mm's have been working the stock down day after day for some time now.

[forecastgreen]

Many industries and Companies are ready for the Hydrogen Economy.

This article states that Hydrogen can be produced from water, but in regions with expensive grid electricity that’s even more pricey. Solar, wind and even nuclear hydrogen offer promise, but only that.


http://www.thedailygreen.com/2007/08/01/high-hopes-for-hydrogen/4664/#comment-7882

If Hypower indeed has the key (like their video states), the sky will be the limit to where this pps goes. I've been in for a while now, and keep buying as it gets pushed lower and lower. Presently have a very substantial stake in it.

[Guthrie]

I agree, the technology can be extremely life changing and enviroment saving but the company itself is horrible. Videos have been promised for almost 5 months now, it's been almost 7 weeks since the last video was put out and there's 3 more to go. Supposedly, all but the last one was done at the time of the first video release. Something needs to start happening before I'll add to my position.
If you're going long term speculation, this might be a good buy, but if you're trading, which you should be doing with any pink, this is definitely not a good time to buy. No bottom has been established and nothing in the indicators says it is, but I'm hoping that changes soon haha.

[BadThad]

They MUST get their power from "green" sources because the energy used during hydrolysis is much higher than the energy gained by hydrogen.

[forecastgreen]

You're right. Could say I'm in it for long-term speculation. Goes well beyond that though.

They said they had videos. Looks to me like they always did have them just like they said, and have to hold off showing more for patent protection. I know one thing....if this video is the real deal, it will be amazing. Short-term as well as long-term.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTgjdtqusOg

[Guthrie]

They MUST get their power from "green" sources because the energy used during hydrolysis is much higher than the energy gained by hydrogen.

The kicker with this technology is they're claiming it won't require that much power, which is why you can't put it in your car and not use fuel cells.

[forecastgreen]

Could be crunch time to be in or out just based on their projections of revenue from their existing HPP product. They expected a good ramp up in sales during second half of this year, and a take-off of sales next year.

For me, the H2R is icing on the cake. The present pps is near the same low that the stock had even before the H2R was out there.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/09/28/023456.html

Many didn't believe the videos were real because of the extremely long delay. It's apparent to me they were real from the beginning. Many didn't believe they were sincere in their talk of being a member of the NHA, but they are. Not to mention they have Dr. Ricketts on their side, who has an extremely good reputation to uphold. If their sales projections just for the HPP happen (as apparently from the pps many don't think it will happen), watch out! When the patent allowance for the H2R comes back, WATCH OUT!!!!!

[Guthrie]

If you're going long term speculation, this might be a good buy, but if you're trading, which you should be doing with any pink, this is definitely not a good time to buy. No bottom has been established and nothing in the indicators says it is, but I'm hoping that changes soon haha.

Well, maybe I was very wrong haha. Bottom might be ironing itself out, keep an eye it over the next few days to hold .08 or break .09/.10. MACD, STO, and RSI curving up if we can finish at .09 or higher and that could be the start of a reversal.

[forecastgreen]

Don't know how many people follow this sort of thing, but when looking at it I found it interesting.

http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=HYPF&MarketTicker=OTC&TYP=S

Part of the details behind the "White Spinning Top" says "If a White Spinning Top is observed after a long decline or a long black candlestick, this implies weakness among the bears and it is a warning about a potential change or interruption in trend."

Do you look at this sort of thing Guthrie? My thoughts on this type of analysis is that it would get tiring. Seems like their buy/sell/hold changes like every other day.

Guess it makes sense it could work because the stocks/markets go up and down every other day. lol

[Guthrie]

Don't know how many people follow this sort of thing, but when looking at it I found it interesting.
http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=HYPF&MarketTicker=OTC&TYP=S
Part of the details behind the "White Spinning Top" says "If a White Spinning Top is observed after a long decline or a long black candlestick, this implies weakness among the bears and it is a warning about a potential change or interruption in trend."
Do you look at this sort of thing Guthrie? My thoughts on this type of analysis is that it would get tiring. Seems like their buy/sell/hold changes like every other day.
Guess it makes sense it could work because the stocks/markets go up and down every other day. lol

Yep, this type of analysis is what a lot of us here on SMC do to find entry/exit points. It really helps with pinksheet stocks as most of them are nothing more than scams. I guess I should add that TA sometimes doesn't work when market makers are manipulating the crap out of the stock like they are here. Back on the old boards, kjk posts some good info on HYPF's manipulation, he's found their patterns and stuff. It's a really long thread so if you're that interested here's the link.
http://www.marketmillionaires.com/hot-micro-cap-stock-picks-under-1-00/5956-hypf-new-alt-energy.html

[kjk]

Yeah,

And the guys that are doing it are chicken****!

As long as there's no buyers, they continually, throughout each day try to drive the pps down (from what I see). When real buys happen they scatter. Been going on for so, so long.

[kjk]

Thanks by the way Guthrie. Didn't think you noticed.

Doubt anyone on either of these boards is as red as me on this, so don't think that I'm not genuine. I was up in December after buying 400,000 shares at 0.09, and the price was 0.54. I didn't sell then even. Did sell some for a very nice profit at 0.30 because I knew it was being driven down, but since have dived in much deeper.

Not recommending anyone else risk what I did. Just decided to put my money where my mouth is. I have done a lot of DD. Of course don't like everything I see with the delays and things, but I do have understanding of how things work in business and how this sort of thing can be explained and justified. Actually makes me think even more strongly that there's such a delay. If there was nothing behind it, they would have released another video imo, before letting the pps get this low. If they could without jeapardy on the patent application.

[Guthrie]

Thanks by the way Guthrie. Didn't think you noticed.

Doubt anyone on either of these boards is as red as me on this, so don't think that I'm not genuine. I was up in December after buying 400,000 shares at 0.09, and the price was 0.54. I didn't sell then even. Did sell some for a very nice profit at 0.30 because I knew it was being driven down, but since have dived in much deeper.


I read most of your posts, they're very informative. I really learn from them when you tell the implications of certain MM actions are.
I really think we're ready to rebound here. A nice close despite the large spread, which means buying pressure to me. The downtrend looks to be broken but tomorrow will tell. Everything is looking good for a launch, I just want to see volume.

[kjk]

Great fresh news here...

http://www.mtsu.edu/~proffice/Record/Rec_v16/rec1604/rec1604_p2.pdf

I see it as amazing news. News that reinforces everything that I see in Dr. Ricketts and HyPower. IMO this relationship is going to change the world.

[Guthrie]

Interesting games the MMs are playing. They hit the bid every once in awhile, then put an order for 100 through at the ask to make it look like there's buying pressure on the charts. Then they do it again and again until the bid is gone, then they do it again for the next bid.

[kjk]

Interesting games the MMs are playing. They hit the bid every once in awhile, then put an order for 100 through at the ask to make it look like there's buying pressure on the charts. Then they do it again and again until the bid is gone, then they do it again for the next bid.

I'm not watching the play by play anymore. What a relief.

Had all day's Level II's on my laptop today, but right before I got a chance to look at it, my daughter accidently closed the window. Off to never never land goes that info. No matter...imagine it was just like the last two days were.

[kjk]

Financials are out on time as they always are (on pinksheets.com).

[Guthrie]

kjk or anyone else, have you heard from Stephen in IR in awhile? I emailed him at the beginning of July and again at the end of July and still no response. Someone isn't doing they're job, even if he is really busy, the least he can do is make some generic responses to send out that let's us know he's still there.

[kjk]

kjk or anyone else, have you heard from Stephen in IR in awhile? I emailed him at the beginning of July and again at the end of July and still no response. Someone isn't doing they're job, even if he is really busy, the least he can do is make some generic responses to send out that let's us know he's still there.

Bushidopupil talked with him a few weeks ago. Emails don't work. Have to call if you want to talk apparently. He stated once again something he said months ago...that there's only one video (the one that already came out) that can be shown before they get patent approvals. If I remember right, he said sales of HPP were still going well. He didn't have anything to say about the Ricketts thing (my take was he probably wasn't allowed to say anything).

I personally don't like calling him. We've done it in the past and it only stresses you out. He could never say anything that would cause us to know when the stock is going to shoot up imo, and it's always seemed that the more excited the HYPF investors got, the harder the push down was. These mm's have got to focus on something else someday.

[Guthrie]

How do emails not work? Does he just not respond to them or is there system down? Either way, something isn't right with that.
It looks like a bottom is ironing out, MACD flattening and the downtrend is kinda broken, we just need to move up a little to confirm that so we're not sitting on top of it.
MMs are tricky on this one so they could drop it to .06 then bring it back up so a good entry point would probably be around .065.

[JJINNE]

How do emails not work? Does he just not respond to them or is there system down? Either way, something isn't right with that.
It looks like a bottom is ironing out, MACD flattening and the downtrend is kinda broken, we just need to move up a little to confirm that so we're not sitting on top of it.
MMs are tricky on this one so they could drop it to .06 then bring it back up so a good entry point would probably be around .065.

I have called him on occasion and have had no problem getting through.
That said I have never tried to e-mail him so I don't know how quick he responds.
IMO The stock is in a holding pattern until we have some type of news.
I am hoping to pick up a few more shares soon.
IMO I think that this is the bottom unless they delay news for a long time then it might go lower.
IMO once news is released it will be back up.:)

JJINNE

[JJINNE]

After I posted I talked to Steve and it sounds like that they are way more focused on the H2R and its possibilities as opposed to the HPP.

It still sounds like the patents (for the H2R) are holding things up.

I dont know if they applied for the patents for the HPP or not.

IMO I don't think that they will release much info until the patents are in place.

Good things come to those who wait. :)

JJINNE

[Guthrie]

HYPF needs to get their patents and products out soon. I know the problem with other companies is their product takes too much power, but if HYPF could make a product that doesn't use too much electricity, why can't someone else?

Fresh water power: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2B2HldNdns&NR=1
Salt Water Power: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KVM1UAPCzc

[Disqplay]

On Friday august 31 at Argonne national labs there was a demonstration on hydrogen powered vehicle some of the participating companies also provided rides to some of the attendee's.

The event was part of the "Green Tansportation" and was attended by US Senator **** Durbin of Illinois. The featured car was BMW's hydrogen-fueled 7-series sedan.

Spec's.
engine --------- v-12
disqplacement-- 5972 cc
power --------- 260hp
top speed ----- 143 mph
range H2----- 125 miles
gas --- 300 miles

The hydrogen 7 has two fuel tanks tanks

1) tank 1 holds 17.5 pounds of liquid hydrogen
2) tank 2 holds 16 gallons of gasoline

the driver can select power from gas or hydrogen by a push of a button on the steering whee. All in all a very interesting event.

Additionally there was a saturn, a honda, and toyota also on display.

Disq

[lovemoney]

Popped up and almost tried to test the 50ma Fri.

[Guthrie]

On Friday august 31 at Argonne national labs there was a demonstration on hydrogen powered vehicle some of the participating companies also provided rides to some of the attendee's.

The event was part of the "Green Tansportation" and was attended by US Senator **** Durbin of Illinois. The featured car was BMW's hydrogen-fueled 7-series sedan.

Spec's.
engine --------- v-12
disqplacement-- 5972 cc
power --------- 260hp
top speed ----- 143 mph
range H2----- 125 miles
gas --- 300 miles

The hydrogen 7 has two fuel tanks tanks

1) tank 1 holds 17.5 pounds of liquid hydrogen
2) tank 2 holds 16 gallons of gasoline

the driver can select power from gas or hydrogen by a push of a button on the steering whee. All in all a very interesting event.

Additionally there was a saturn, a honda, and toyota also on display.

Disq


While that is very cool, I was under the impression that liquid hydrogen is very volatile, which is why a lot of companies haven't picked it up yet? I'm really hoping hydrogen becomes a source of alternates to oil, but what I'm really hoping for is the adapters to run current cars on hydrogen instead of gas. This is definitely a step in the right direction though ;)
I was recenetly in a debate with my roommate over this site: http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ because the author is convinced hydrogen is not a good source to replace oil but my arguments with my roommate stemmed from the human ingenuity that the author of the site was underestimating, then I tell him about HYPF, so they better deliver lol, there's a lot more than my pride on the line here if what that site says is true.

[kjk]

I was recenetly in a debate with my roommate over this site: http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ because the author is convinced hydrogen is not a good source to replace oil but my arguments with my roommate stemmed from the human ingenuity that the author of the site was underestimating, then I tell him about HYPF, so they better deliver lol, there's a lot more than my pride on the line here if what that site says is true.

I believe. That's for sure.

Was great to hear where you're at Guthrie. I imagine that the more you looked, the more you liked. Same thing happened to me.

[kjk]

I finally took the time to start reading that article. Initially I could see where they were coming from. As soon as they started stating that "fresh" water "which is also rapidly depleting", their stripes began to show for me. What a bunch of crap. Then they start talking about how much water it takes to make things like a microchip. As they are stating that they give the impression that the water is being consumed, never to come back as water again. The water used to make most things is not being consumed. It is being used to transfer heat, to cool, to quench, etc. Yeah it needs to be treated just like our sewage does. But, we do that. And it's not a problem.

Obviously I believe there is an end to how much oil and gas is out there, and that it's important that we begin steering away from it for fuel use (to make things is something else. The less we burn, the more we will have to make things)...That's why I'm so into the Hydrogen work. But for me it looks like these people are out to sell books, or something like that.

[kjk]

I quit reading that article and decided to check out something. Figured that if my guess was right that they have an agenda to sell books, that they would probably have the books at the end of the LONG article. And low and behold at the very end of page 2 are the books they are selling!! This even though they had a link to their books as well as showed their books at the beginning of the article. Oh...and a link to a "preparedness store"!!

Funny how if we really put our minds to it, we can see the good in things, as well as see what appears good at the surface. But deep down, there's an agenda. In life, 9 times out of 10 there's an agenda. 8.9 out of that 9, the agenda is someone trying to get money. Whether straight-up, or not. imo

[kjk]

Hopefully we'll get away from the deception here. Please guys. Stay on top of regulating this website, and it will prosper.

Now's the time to get in on this. Hydrogen is definitely the future, and this stock has been beat to a pulp.

Look at the fact that the pps, after already being beaten plenty, was creeping up when they hammered it even more. Take a look at this chart. They are really trying to keep this thing down imo.

http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&intraday=off&timeframe=1m&charttype=ohlc&splits=off&earnings=off&movingaverage=None&lowerstudy=volume&comparison=off&index=&drilldown=off&symbol=HYPF&selected=HYPF

There are several of us that really believe in this company, as you will see in this thread. Getting in now is the ultimate. That is, if you can get a hold of many shares. Has looked like, for a while that they give an appearance to want to sell at the ask, but isn't uncommon for them not to. Looks like those mm's are accumulating bigtime. Just take a look at Friday's intraday. And the two or three days prior. PPS goes up in the morning with real buys, then when the real buys are passed, they push it down imo. They have done this same thing for months.

[kjk]

Last PR was released July 27th

http://markets.chron.com/chron?GUID=2737167&Page=MediaViewer&Ticker=HYPF

This was released July 26th....the day before HyPower released the PR

http://www.biotenn.com/media/news/archive/072607.htm

http://www.mtsu.edu/~proffice/Record/Rec_v16/rec1604/rec1604_p2.pdf

Take a look on the last link to what Ricketts is going to do with the prius that he got a grant to purchase.

[kjk]

No PR in quite some time. Same thing happened before this pps shot from under 0.10 to 0.54 last December in just a few days.

The Company has been taking steps to communicate even in addition to their IR person.

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=HYPF&read=372

http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=HYPF&read=371

IMO, and in others' opinions, this is not your typical pinkie. I didn't sell at 0.54, and I won't sell at 0.54 if it goes there tomorrow either.

[Bushidopupil]

I'm here KJK, and I will tell the rest about the new adventure. Hopefully this will be a place of mutual respect and a place where info. on Hypower can be discussed without underling motives.

Happy investing to all...:D

[CatFish]

glad to have you all with us. if you all see disrespect pm and let me know and i promise it will be handled. you will find this forum is a lot different then anything out thier. we work hard to make it that way and hope you learn on the site and also make some green on the way. remember thier is no such thing as a profit in the penny market. they all go up and down and down a lot faster. have a green week
paul

[Bushidopupil]

Very down day today, speaking of my emotions, good thing my investment choices are not made off of emotions...LOL

[kjk]

Very down day today, speaking of my emotions, good thing my investment choices are not made off of emotions...LOL

Yeah...very down day. Did you see my private message yesterday? Not sure how they show up here to where you notice them.

I bought some more today. Helps ease my pain. Nothing has changed for me but the pps. And that's been the case forever. We'll see what happens.

No matter what, it should be interesting to see. Hopefully, won't be a painful kinda interesting. I'm counting on an ecstatic kinda interesting. Now's not a good time to count on that, however. PPS pushemdown really does play with the emotions.

[Bushidopupil]

Yeah...very down day. Did you see my private message yesterday? Not sure how they show up here to where you notice them.

I bought some more today. Helps ease my pain. Nothing has changed for me but the pps. And that's been the case forever. We'll see what happens.

No matter what, it should be interesting to see. Hopefully, won't be a painful kinda interesting. I'm counting on an ecstatic kinda interesting. Now's not a good time to count on that, however. PPS pushemdown really does play with the emotions.

Yeah, I got your PM, but have not looked yet. I am banking (literally) on the second option there (ecstatic) because I feel the tech. along with the people that are joining up with Hypower are good people, they have good character I mean, and big dreams of a better tomorrow. I am with that all the way. Am I dissapointed in the PPS, yes, but no matter, my (large) position remains the same, in it to win it...HA HA HA maybe I am crazy, but I see it all working out very very well....Multimillionaire well I mean...We can only wait and see...

[kjk]

maybe I am crazy, but I see it all working out very very well...We can only wait and see...

I think this thing is making us all crazy. lol. Don't know what to believe, and what not to believe. Company, mm's, posters, etc. etc. etc. What's real....what's not?

[Bushidopupil]

I think this thing is making us all crazy. lol. Don't know what to believe, and what not to believe. Company, mm's, posters, etc. etc. etc. What's real....what's not?

Easy young Jedi, use the force, put away your feelings and trust your DD...:D

[kjk]

Easy young Jedi, use the force, put away your feelings and trust your DD...:D

LOL. I feel like you just slapped me in the face to wake me up. Albeit gently. Just a minor venting. Did you forget I bought today? Of course I'm still trusting my DD.

[Bushidopupil]

LOL. I feel like you just slapped me in the face to wake me up. Albeit gently. Just a minor venting. Did you forget I bought today? Of course I'm still trusting my DD.

Yeah, I wish I could buy more, all tapped out at the moment...It was not a slap, just a gentle nudge...making sure you were still in your right mind.

[kjk]

Amazing to see people saying the Company deceived its shareholders because they call Steve, he seemingly is concerned about the shareholder frustration and says he'll try to put out a PR, they announce this on the boards, a few days later volume comes out of the woodwork with the PPS diving down, out of the blue, the Company states that they don't think it's a good environment to be releasing a PR just to be releasing a PR, and people say the Company deceived the shareholders?

Simply amazing.

Takes me right there to reality vs. fantasy (possibly purposeful fantasy).

[kjk]

Simply Amazing what's being said. I better buy some more.

I know...I know. Don't know why I still bother over there. A new guy (even though stated bought in mid-20's, which if true, would imply that he's been a shareholder since around March from my perspective), with new, unbelievable and conflicting comments. There's apparently no end to this.

[Bushidopupil]

If I could buy more right now, I would back the truck up...I am very cautious about what I let myself believe, and the other board really needs to just be disbanned....WOW ....I can't believe what I just read over there....Let me look up Doug Benders number and I will tell him Happy Thankgiving and Merry Christmas....and a HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR...LOL

[kjk]

Need to break the habit. Posted a link for work that Penn State is doing, looking at using Nuclear power to produce Hydrogen. They state their envisioned process will consume only water, and emit only Hydrogen and Oxygen. Everything else is apparently recycled.

More examples of the strong push towards a Hydrogen economy, and in particular a Hydrogen economy that is not consuming our natural resources and emiting pollution into the environment as a result of that use.

http://www.hydrogenassociation.org/media/pressReleases/pennState_25oct07.pdf

And this link shows how fueling stations can use either the electrolysis process, or reformers that produce Hydrogen from natural gas or oil (would imagine typically would be natural gas). IMO there will be many drivers towards the electrolysis method. Which means the best electrolysis process is going to be in extremely high demand. Looks like many Hydrogen generation companies have been focused in the reformer area. My opinion is they picked the wrong area. Probably picked it because, at present anyway, it's the cheapest way to produce. That might change. And even if in the end it's still the cheapest, doesn't mean imo that it won't still go to 80+% electrolysis.

http://www.hydrogenassociation.org/newsletter/summer07/gtiGreenfield.pdf

[ScottyTrade]

Just joined this board. x-ssherril. This company/stock continues to intrigue, confuse and stress me, but I am still in it, and will continue to be in it.

[kjk]

Welcome x-ssherril.

Does the same for me. It's been an adventure that's for sure. Green, then red (very), and I believe soon to be green once again (very). Only time will tell.

I'm pretty sure by the goings on with the pps/trading that we aren't the only ones who are frustrated.

[ScottyTrade]

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/071107/20071107006051.html?.v=1

HyPower Fuel Provides Update on Patents for High Efficiency Hydrogen Reactor and Hydro Power Pact: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

HyPower Fuel Provides Update on Patents for High Efficiency Hydrogen Reactor and Hydro Power Pact
Wednesday November 7, 12:17 pm ET


WILMINGTON, Del.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--HyPower Fuel Inc. (Pinksheets: HYPF - News) is pleased to announce that the patent for the Hydro Power Pack (HPP) was completed. Management is now pursuing patents on the high efficiency Hydrogen Reactor (H2R) to add to its patent portfolio. HyPower Fuel has diligently been working with their Patent Attorney to ensure the patents on the H2R will include all of the improvements that the H2 Reactor team has made since the patent process began.
Mr. Douglas Bender, President of HyPower Fuel, enthusiastically stated that “we have been working methodically on improvements to the H2 Reactor and are confident that this technology is heads and shoulders above the competing electrolyzer technology currently available”.

Doug Bender went on to say that “we wish to inform our shareholders that in the past few months our H2 Reactor team has been very busy with a number of potential business applications of the H2 Reactor technology. This technology and its business applications should provide an impressive revenue stream opportunity for our Company. We continue to receive a high level of demand and interest from companies and individuals on a global scale.”

[ScottyTrade]

Ok KJK and Bushi, I am intersted in your thoughts on the PR?
I think it basically states staying the course. I do not see any revenue yet, and we will see next week when their financials should be out. On the HPP patent, I see on thier website that it states they got a patent on that in 2001. I guess there could be multiple for it, but seems like old news. Don't get me wrong, the PR was good in stating the course and work in progress, and the promise of potential. However from that, I do not anticipate any more PR's anytime soon. I think this was a good progress report, which highlighted to two products and their mission to move forward with a superior product.

[kjk]

I don't know about the HPP patent statement. Guess it's good. Can't say I know enough about it. I'm with you on what you said about what is stated on the site. Just don't know details. Not sure if it was originally Canada and now it's not just there, or what.

I liked the PR. Was nice to see Bender's enthusiastic words again. (Biting my tongue about comments made somewhere else.)

I also realize why HyPower was wondering how it would be accepted a few weeks ago. I continue to like what I see with this company. And I'm in no hurry. The future looks very bright from my eyes.

People knock me for it, but mm action has told me more than anything from day one. Just take a look at my original posts over there and you'll see. Saw the same thing today. They'll get tired of losing shares in the futile effort imo.

Sure can't see anyone selling today with this PR. So.....reinforces what I've felt all along. Who sold that many shares today? Not like it popped to 0.05 and all those shares goes sold at that level. Wish I was watching Level II's today. Was 10,000 shares sold at 0.05, and 15,000 at 0.04, and 750,000 sold at 0.035? Or something like that? Would be nice info for me to know. Actually now that I brought up the intraday, doesn't look too far from that with a quick glance. If it was the case, I still see a lot of these supposed trades as just that. In other words, possibly keeping it in the family, and only sell if you absolutely have to. And at that, at higher pps' so that you'll hopefully get back at least what you lost. My paranoid perception anyway.

Draw your own conclusion about the volume at certain pps levels

http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote.dll?page=charting&mode=basics&intraday=on&timeframe=intra&charttype=ohlc&splits=off&earnings=off&movingaverage=None&lowerstudy=volume&comparison=off&index=&drilldown=off&symbol=HYPF&selected=HYPF

[ScottyTrade]

There was about 100k sold at .048-.05 (looks like 1 buyer by the same time stamp), but other than that it was all trades of 90k shares or less (lots of small) at .03 to .04 (.028 before the PR).

[Bushidopupil]

This is how I read the PR. Must be an improved version that they received a patent on. I read on the HYPF website along time ago about the 2001 patent for the HPP. That was just to get things started according to the website. I believe Ricketts made suggestions and both the HPP and the H2R were modded and the info. was sent to the patent office. Good PR IMO

[kjk]

After looking at an old research report, my view is that it is similar to what i was saying in my last post. The report says that they had patents registered in Canada, The United States, and Mexico. From what they said in this last PR, I'd say that it means that they put everything in place worldwide. That is what it looks like to me anyway. Could explain why the push wasn't so hard on the overseas sales. Would make sense that they needed to have patents in place first to protect the technology.

That would also explain the "global scale" comments by Stephen as well as with this PR. Only makes sense that some of the HPP patent content would likely be used for the H2R. An even better electrolyzer on the Hydrogen fuel injection system.

http://www.beaconequityresearch.com/report/20060925140730HYPF_initial_report.pdf

[Bushidopupil]

For some reason I had not seen this link before. I learned more about the HPP that I didn't know. I thought they were using only distilled water, yes it says they use special water, but it says they can use seawater, sewer water or tap water, that makes this even better IMO. Speaking of seawater, check this out, I think it has been posted elsewhere, but anyway, maybe the two technologies can be incorporated somehow....I AM NOT a chemical, biological, or any other type of engineer per say, but I think the two could find some common ground somehow....to assist one another that is....

http://www.wpbf.com/news/13383827/detail.html

[kjk]

Yeah. I think he is the real deal too. I believe that he also developed a process for attacking cancer cells, which if I remember right is why he got into all of that experimenting (I'm thinking he was working on a cure for himself [think it's even brought up in that video]). Just heard the other day that there are research people working on that finding of his. He is actually from my area from what I hear. Guess he was on the Fla news recently, along with the work I believe a university or hospital (or both) is working on.

[Bushidopupil]

So, all that needs to happen is ...... a process that can be repeated over and over again, cheaply and safely controlled. Imput it into a vehicle like he stated as a possibility in the end of the article and there you go....Another way to not pay 100 dollars per barrel for Oil....Along with the other applications that HYPF is working on...Home, industrial, and so on and so forth.

[hyop11]

HI Kjk, bushido, if any of you want to reasearch more about john kanzius and his work go to peswiki.com he and everyyone else involved in alternative energy solutions are showcased there. its a neat and down to earth site:(hey! hang on to those shares, the last few weeks( imop.) were the mms playing chicken with the retail shareholders., strange how the activity and volume ceased just before the update.

[Bushidopupil]

Glad to see you here Hyop. I value your opinion. Yes I will check out that site, thanks.

[Bushidopupil]

Wow, great site. Right on the front page we have a listing of 100 top energy companies, yes HYPF is in the insufficient cat. but that will change soon I believe. Thanks for the site Hyop.

[kjk]

Hi hyop11!

Fun game of tag last night huh. We kept trying to get you to see us showing you to come over here. By the time you looked, I edited to an emoticon. lol. Thought you might have thought I was teasing you. Liked your response (tooshay). Thought it was a hoot.

Hang on to the shares? You kidding? I'm still buying. Amazing how hard those mm's have been working at it nearly all year as far as I've seen. Working very hard. Throughout every day.

[Bushidopupil]

Qrtly. report out. Looks good to me. More fuel. Just a matter of time...:D

[hyop11]

Hi bushidopupil:, qrtly. does look good and i agree with "oakes" post. good luck .

[kjk]

Hi bushidopupil:, qrtly. does look good and i agree with "oakes" post. good luck .

Always nice to see it still being released timely, no dilution, and looks like they even paid down a bit of debt. That's never a bad thing.

Now that we have that bit of information with the HPP, I would hope to see increased revenues next quarter. If they do now have the patent in place worldwide, time to let it loose and get moving. The world is primed and ready.

Onwards and upwards imo. Both pps and exchange.

[kjk]

Not surprising to find that the 3 oil companies that are publicly known to be working on alternative energy (of which Hydrogen Economy work is included) are listed on the top 10 of environmentally responsible "big" companies on this ranking.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/fortune/0710/gallery.accountability.fortune/index.html

Just a note for those who see oil companies hiding technologies such as what HyPower has developed. I don't see it happening. This type of technology is in their future as well.

Also don't see Exxon lagging behind for much longer. Betcha they stick it into high gear very soon (if they haven't already).

[kjk]

Here's an example imo of how they appear to see the light in Hydrogen being our future. Just doesn't look like they're quite up to speed with realizing that we need to get away from the idea of using the carbon-based resources to make it (like the other oil companies like Chevron and Shell appear to have realized; still not sure if BP is there personally http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9007871&contentId=7014998).

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/exxonmobil/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&ndmConfigId=1001106&newsId=20071115005128&newsLang=en&vnsId=-2147483648

It is interesting how Exxon touches the subject of how filling station infrastructure is needed if you don't generate Hydrogen on-board the vechicle...."As the ExxonMobil system uses conventional fuels and produces hydrogen on demand, no such infrastructure or on-board storage would be necessary. "

Sound familiar? Wait till they see the light and see what HyPower has. They won't want to detroy or hide it imo, they will want it.

[kjk]

What's your CO2 Generation Score?

http://www.earthlab.com/carbonProfile/LiveEarth.htm?ver=14

[kjk]

http://www.h2euro.org/Index/Hydrogen%20Hits%20the%20Road/images/Refeuling%20station%20map%2007.pdf

[kjk]

http://www.hydrogenassociation.org/general/fuelingMap.asp

[kjk]

Sums it up pretty good imo.

http://www.green-trader.info/

[Bushidopupil]

Yep, I would say that he hit the nail on the head...Good post KJK.

[aoles]

any idea when these pattens might be completed? and what do you make of the chart, do you think it might be due or is there too much resistance?

[kjk]

Some feel that there's been so much apparent manipulation pushing this pps down, that it's very difficult to see or analyze trading patterns here.

[kjk]

A bit of publicity for Dr. Ricketts earlier this month.

http://www.fox17.com/newsroom/top_stories/vid_325.shtml

[kjk]

In my opinion, what the company should do here is buy back some shares. Lets see if there are really those out there who are wanting to sell at these pps levels.

It's very common for good companies to do this when their pps is unduly suppressed.

But, then again, it would be based on an assumption that some people do indeed want to sell their shares. Certainly looks that way, huh?

[kjk]

Not that I put much into this normaly, let alone for this suppressed pps, but I found what they say here pretty interesting.

http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=HYPF&MarketTicker=OTC&TYP=S

[Bushidopupil]

Maybe with this info. we will see a positive bump on friday from the NOT TOO LATE crowd...LOL

[kjk]

HyPower has a guy who has past connections to Air Liquide.

http://markets.chron.com/chron?GUID=2198782&Page=MediaViewer&Ticker=HYPF

Air Liquide is a major player in Hydrogen

http://www.axane.net/gb/products/h2/h2.html

Look at the on-site generation section, and how they say:

"Today's electrolysis technology remains one of the most environmentally friendly solutions to produce Hydrogen.

Fed by demineralised water, HYOS uses only DC current to split water into its basic components: Hydrogen and Oxygen (no CO2 emission)."

This is the future.

And comments from HyPower's last PR - "Mr. Douglas Bender, President of HyPower Fuel, enthusiastically stated that “we have been working methodically on improvements to the H2 Reactor and are confident that this technology is heads and shoulders above the competing electrolyzer technology currently available”. " - means EVERYTHING

[kjk]

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24780779

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24780851

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24781109

[kjk]

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24780779

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24780851

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24781109

Apparently it was our HyPower in the May 1st report.

http://www.marketresearch.com/product/display.asp?productid=1487901&xs=r&m=1&curr=USD&kw=&view=toc

[hyop11]

kjk, bush, have you ever heard of a company by the name of overstock .com or more important its ceo patrick byrne, back in 05 he alledged and tryed to hold accountabile the mm's and naked shorts for the demise of his co. and many others, last month he again addressed some of the same issues at the annual pipes conf. ( watch this-www.deepcapturethemovie.com).

[kjk]

kjk, bush, have you ever heard of a company by the name of overstock .com or more important its ceo patrick byrne, back in 05 he alledged and tryed to hold accountabile the mm's and naked shorts for the demise of his co. and many others, last month he again addressed some of the same issues at the annual pipes conf. ( watch this-www.deepcapturethemovie.com).

Cool....how do you find these things? I'm loading it up now so that it doesn't pause as I'm watching/listening. Looks pretty recent too (Oct 19th).

Thanks for passing that on hyop11.

[kjk]

I especially like his last statement, quoting Ghandi. Oh how true that is.

Kinda scary. I see it possibly fitting here somewhat...as far as possibly throwing shares out there that they don't have. However, my view is they want to make a ton of dough. Not that they want to tank this company. What it has is just too valuable and too important imo.

Thanks for showing us that hyop11. Patrick Byrnes is obviously a brilliant person, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. Also going to check out his blog now.

[kjk]

"First they ignore you

Then they laugh at you

Then they fight you

And then you win"


I just love that quote. Hope the last one holds true. All of the others have come my way. Right in that order too. lol

[kjk]

Here's a nice Christmas gift for the kids. When they grow up and are driving Hydrogen cars, they'll be talking about how they had one of these I'm sure.

http://shopping.discovery.com/product-66034.html

[Bushidopupil]

Thanks Hyop, that was awesome and yes KJK he is very wise.

AND YES.....WE WIN!!! HA HA HA JUST A MATTER OF TIME.....:D

[Bushidopupil]

I had a very short conversation with Stephen today (short becuase I was at work and had to let him go) I asked "What can we expect next from HYPF" He then said that I needed to be more specific due to insider info. stuff, he said he could not tell me any specifics of course and I was not asking for that. I just wanted to know what would come in the near future with the company....he said and I QUOTE "The company is looking at contract offers right now. From this I ASSUME they have a few offers for the HPP on a fairly large scale, or they are looking to market their process in another application. That is all I know....Do with it what you will...

[kjk]

Don't know how it took so long for me to find this:

http://www.licanational.com/newsletter_files/junenlica.pdf (says who invented the HPP)

I would venture to say this is the US Patent (3 different looks at it):

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=10&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&p=1&S1=810,101&OS=810,101&RS=810,101

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5305715.html

http://www.google.com/patents?id=2QIiAAAAEBAJ&dq=5,305,715&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=2&as_miny_ap=2007&as_maxm_ap=9&as_maxy_ap=2007

and Canadian Patent:

http://patents.ic.gc.ca/cipo/cpd/en/patent/2085386/summary.html


Appears they have a technique that "produces the hydrogen and oxygen with a minimum amount of sediment and no deterioration of the plates."

Notice how it took much longer for the patent to come through in Canada than the US. Canadian patent didn't look like it came through until August of 2004.

[hyop11]

good find kjk, investigating patent searches will give one the appreciation of what is involved in the complexities of granting proprietary rights to an invention or process., to check for world wide patent searches you may want to try( www.wipo.int).

[kjk]

good find kjk, investigating patent searches will give one the appreciation of what is involved in the complexities of granting proprietary rights to an invention or process., to check for world wide patent searches you may want to try( www.wipo.int).

Thanks hyop11.

[Theboundbook]

Not much happening with this the last few days.....

[Theboundbook]

Seems everyone waiting... Very low volume....

[kjk]

Will be nice when we see HyPower on this board....

http://www.mtsu.edu/~srickett/Photos.htm

A few pictures shows the MTSU board. Looks cool with the cars in front. And names of partners on the cars.

Not sure where these pictures were taken, but boy can't wait till HyPower is out there for all to see.

[kjk]

Looking at how the sponsors were painted on those cars is impressive.

Seeing HyPower on the Prius will be totally awesome!

[kjk]

Older paper on Renewable Hydrogen, but it is still very informative.

http://www.ases.org/programs/policy/hydrogen.pdf

[kjk]

HyPower is mentioned in this write-up about hydrogen boost systems

http://thermo1.com/hyboost.htm

[Theboundbook]

Up another .003 to .025.... Glad I got in at .016. Waiting for the big boost on this one. Gonna hold this for a long time I think.

[kjk]

Up another .003 to .025.... Glad I got in at .016. Waiting for the big boost on this one. Gonna hold this for a long time I think.

You got that right.

[Bushidopupil]

Lucky you, I plan to load up on some more soon...Waiting on funds...must remain calm and patient...and I will be holding this for a very very long time...

[kjk]

Looks like there's a lot of work going on here.

And look who's one of the two funding the 600 mile one day trip. Can only imagine what's all involved there. Great exposure on top of everything else.

http://mtsu32.mtsu.edu:11823/Fall%202007%20research%20list%20for%20Alanna.doc

[kjk]

The names that are listed with Dr. Ricketts to work on the 600 mile run and the Toyota Prius are likely his students imo.

Googling Frank Byers shows that he's the guy on the video that said "The technology is out there. Alot of people know about it and they talk about it but not that many people do it. It's a lot of talking and not enough doing and we're just doing it."

Go getem' Frank!

[kjk]

Here's the video

http://clipsyndicate.com/publish/video/441194/water_for_fuel

[Theboundbook]

Need this one to be heading the other direction.... Down to .2 this morning with little volume.... Just waiting for the info to get to the public.... This is gonna go......

[kjk]

The first paragraph on the DOE alternative fuels web page sums up everything when it comes to how much potential is here:

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/fuels/hydrogen.html

They talk about how you can make hydrogen by electrolyzing water. Also talks about using renewable energy sources (examples are wind and solar energy) to make Hydrogen "holds the promise of virtually pollution-free transportation and independence from imported petroleum".

"pollution-free" and "independence from imported petroleum" cannot happen when making it from fossil fuels. Electrolysis of water is how we can get to that utopia.

Can't get bigger than that

[kjk]

When you click on the 'Hydrogen as an Alternative Fuel link' under 'Basics' on that other web page, you get this:

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/fuels/hydrogen_alternative.html

Halfway through the second paragraph they say "Because hydrogen has a low volumetric energy density (a small amount of energy by volume compared with fuels such as gasoline), storing this much hydrogen on a vehicle using currently available technology would require a very large tank—larger than the trunk of a typical car. Advanced technologies are needed to reduce the required storage space and weight."

How about "On-Board" and "At-Home" generation as you use it? The technology that HyPower has been working on for years is right where the sweet spot is. That's why I have been so hot on them since doing my DD. They are ahead of everyone as far as I have seen after all of my research.

Only thing is, there still aren't that many that realize how important the area that they are focused in is. But won't be long. Won't be long before everywhere you look you will see and hear that Hydrogen generation by way of electrolysis is the future.

And on-board generation will be important as well. Exxon Mobil appears to believe that. Only thing is, they want to make the Hydrogen from fossil fuels. Tsk...Tsk...Tsk

http://www.exxonmobilchemical.com/Public_Files/PA/WorldwideEnglish/141102.pdf

"Furthermore, very real safety concerns exist in regard to storage, distribution and handling of hydrogen and the use of highly pressurized hydrogen in tanks on vehicles. This is why researchers are seeking ways to extract hydrogen on board directly from liquid fuels such as gasoline."

[Theboundbook]

And still low volume today. Down to .02. Might get in again if it drops below this.... And big this time!

[Theboundbook]

Well, I have been talking about it and suggesting some people get in. Here is the beginning of a long climb.... I believe this will be a steady slow gain for a mos. or 2 and then boom up up up!

Its up another 8+% today at .025. Glad I got in at .016! Put in another buy at .022 also.

[Theboundbook]

Close up 30%!

[Theboundbook]

Today it did what I thought it would do. Open lower than the close on Fri. Opened at .027 and now at .025. If it gets down to .022 Im in again. May just get some more at .025 if I can.

[kjk]

I gave up predicting where this thing goes day to day. Something as manipulated as this is, you guess one way and they'll take it the other. Just to frustrate the heck out of you.

Should help that they aren't still holding on to hope that people might dump in order to offset taxable gains. You would expect that they wouldn't be willing to take as much of a chance in losing shares in the effort to keep it down now.

With that said, I expect tomorrow's (or the next day) action to show I don't know what I'm talking about. Wish I had a share for every time that has happened.

|-{

[Theboundbook]

Sitting at .03 and holding.....

[kjk]

Anyone able to find how we can listen to this radio show that was on XM yesterday? I have XM and don't even see it on the list of channels. Should be channel 171. Must only be active certain hours of the day I guess.

http://www.hydrogenassociation.org/

http://www.davenemo.com/contact.html

NHA's home page makes it look like you can listen to the discussion that was apparently about hydrogen injection on this radio show, but I don't see a link that takes you to the audio clip.

Getting a bit of publicity on this web page, with HyPower and the other two NHA members listed beneath where it talks about the show that was on XM about hydrogen injection.

[kjk]

Listened to this show on XM today.

Sounds like a good show. Appears that he has a strong, broad following.

Would like to hear the radio show on Hydrogen injection. Since the NHA is publicizing it like it is, would imagine that the discussion shined the technology in a positive light.

[kjk]

Here's an interesting article that talks about the auto companies looking at reformers to produce Hydrogen to improve gas mileage, provide more power, and reduce emissions.

This is stunning support of the benefits associated with what HyPower has been working on for years. IMO it's doubtful that reformers here would replace their booster technology just like my view that it's likely that their H2R technology will replace reformers in Hydrogen generation. We need carbonless....period.

Look at the section "What the Experts are Saying" in this article. This is what the companies like HyPower have been saying for a long time. And still you see people who publicly claim that the benefits of Hydrogen injection are not for real.

http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/the-hydrogen-boosted-gasoline-engine-cga.htm

[kjk]

"The hydrogen-boosted engine will not be alone, however, in the race for fuel economy leadership position. Advanced turbocharged downsized direct injected variable valve engines, common-rail diesel engines, hybrids, and flex-fuel vehicles are all vying for the automaker's attention in the fuel-economy race. None of these technologies can boast all of the advantages of the hydrogen-boosted engine, namely dramatically increased fuel economy, minimal emissions control, and overall cost-efficiency. In the end, it will take a combination of many technologies to address this nation's thirst for driving freedom, but it's likely that we'll hear a lot more about the hydrogen-boosted engine in the future."

[kjk]

Scroll down and read the last article "Hydrogen Highway Shrinking" along with the first comment made, which was made yesterday.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/GreenCarAdvisor/Comments/156

This is the biggie comment - "-FedEx is using hydrogen injection systems in their southern truck fleet"

I've been searching for something like this for a long time (seeing if FEDEX, UPS or USPS is using Hydrogen injection technology) and found nothing. Wonder how this guy knows, and what's behind that comment. WOW!

[kjk]

Had a conversation with someone who works for USPS yesterday. He said that gas prices are really hurting them.

Wouldn't be surprised to find that it's already happening there as well, with them testing out hydrogen injection. Same with UPS. Only makes sense to do it. More power, lower fuel consumption, and lower emissions (in combination with tighter regulations). There's just too much there imo for it not to be happening.

[kjk]

Note the "carbon neutral infrastructure" comment. Makes sense that would mean no reformers.

http://www.autospectator.com/cars/mazda/0033922-mazda-participate-norwegian-national-project-hynor-providing-hydrogen-cars-norway-summ

Several European communities are already well ahead of us in their goal of establishing Hydrogen economies. And typically you don't hear them using reformers to make Hydrogen. Would make no sense to remain dependent on fossil fuels.

Here's another example with Iceland. Note that they are making Hydrogen from water (mentioned in the video). Not natural gas.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/09/18/driving.iceland/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

An old Shell video shows the same thing has been going on in Amsterdam and Luxemburg for some time now:

http://www.shell.com/static/hydrogen-en/downloads/brochures/2006_hydrogen_corporate.wmv

[kjk]

This article does a great job in discussing the need and promise of Hydrogen and the Hydrogen Economy.

Try to take the time to read it in it's entirety. It really is well written and contains a lot of important information. Our children's children are going to depend on this. We cannot let them down.

http://www.alternet.org/environment/67954/?page=entire

[Theboundbook]

Up to. 0029 now and heavy trading. Man what a great day for me today!. RVGD and this one banked me today baby!

[GreenApe]

:zzz: WoW! Roses are Red...As Energy goes Green...HYPF is totally unseen!

G-Ape:dance:

[Theboundbook]

Not by me. Got in at .016 and been waiting for this to move up past the .03 spot; keeps getting there but not past it. Been at .025 for a while now. Good launching pt (bottom) to make even more $$$$.....

This stock and RVGD have been my two fav. stocks this month and hope to see both go nuts now or real soon!

[Bushidopupil]

Check the PM bro.

[Theboundbook]

Check the PM bro.

I have a stupid question. What do you mean? I know the volume has been low, but I do believe in this. News will pumps this everytime lately, since news always seems to be good in regards to this company. With my money sitting at .016 and it hovering at .025, I cant complain. But I would like to see this jump again and get to another "higher" bottom.

[Bushidopupil]

UH??? I was talking to KJK about the Private Message I sent him. I am all for this stock and I am heavly invested....I agree with you...and we should see some good news real soon...

[Theboundbook]

UH??? I was talking to KJK about the Private Message I sent him. I am all for this stock and I am heavly invested....I agree with you...and we should see some good news real soon...


Ok. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

[Bushidopupil]

No sweat, glad to see you here and on the team....The long haul will be so much better than the short...

[Theboundbook]

Im in big at .016 and .025. Mostly in on the cheaper amount....

[kjk]

:~/

Are you confusing people Bushi?

LOL!

[kjk]

Cumon HyPower. Give us some news please. Try to make it really interesting.

:)

[Bushidopupil]

Roger that. Not on purpose though, just wanted to make sure you saw the message I sent.:biggrin:

[Theboundbook]

A little more volume today, but still not much in price. Been holding this puppy for a while.... Waiting. Waiting. Waiting.

[Bushidopupil]

KJK and I have held over a year, soon my friend, soon...:lol:

[Theboundbook]

Well, this has dropped to .0245. Its lowest in a long while. Im still up green (got in at .016), but not sure whats up with it. Not much at all it seems. Anyone heard about ANYTHING on this one at all?

[greencat]

It is having a lot of trouble breaking stiff resistance at .03. If it breaks that it should move up pretty good. I set an alert at .03

[Theboundbook]

Dropping again.... Early trade of 8 k+ took it down to .023.

[GreenApe]

I came across some pretty negative comments posted on Yahoo Finance Message board page regarding HYPF and thought I would share them in case you have not read them. Go to www.finance.yahoo.com Put HYPF.PK into the symbol box...then click on the "message board" tab to the left. Read through the messages there are some ugly remarks regarding Investor Relations.



The Ape...:dance:

[kjk]

Thanks for sharing....

The main poster I see is extremely inconsistent in what he says one week vs. the next. I don't recall anything happening in between those times to warrant such a departure.

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Re: HYPF appears to be working on patents. 8-Jan-08 01:13 am

Hi,

I agree. HYPF has what appears to be a good group of scientific advisors and staff. I'm holding long.

Serious Steve


Sentiment : Hold

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DON'T BUY THIS STOCK!!! 24-Jan-08 03:36 pm

HELLO EVERYONE,

DON'T BUY THIS STOCK!

I JUST SOLD ALL SHARES!

GOOD BYE & GOOD LUCK!


Sentiment : Strong Sell

---------------------------

Have to wonder where this comes from...

He says "I'm holding long"....LOLOLOLOLOL!!! Three weeks is long?

Says looks like they have a good group of scientific advisors and later says don't buy a stock if Stephen Taylor is involved because all of the stocks he's associated with are going down?? And throws in Fraud next to his name?

Doesn't appear to me this poster is playing with a full deck.

[Theboundbook]

The stock is up today. Foook him. Ill prob. bought his shares yest. when it bottomed out. Anyways, this will hang between .026 and .030 until God know's when, but hell, my avg buy per share is .016. So its all green to me and I think this is gonna shoot up sometime this year.

One thing I have notice of people on 'the other boards' is that they are so UP and Down from one day to the next if the stock isnt making 20% or more. Think of a normal stock (one of 10.00 +). Most of there ups and downs are in less than .5% on any given day. And you dont see their chaotic behavior like this guy on 'that other board' yelling dump it, you are dumb for having it; etc.

[kjk]

http://www.arb.ca.gov/newsrel/nr021108.htm

"Ford is the world's first automaker to deliver commercial vehicles powered by internal combustion engines that are fueled exclusively with hydrogen,"


Wonder how well the H2R would work on a bus? Potential with this device is huge!

Wonder how it's going with the Ford Fusion HyPower has been working on for over a year now?


http://markets.chron.com/chron?GUID=664103&Page=MediaViewer&Ticker=HYPF

[GreenApe]

HyPower Fuel Releases Green Energy Update
Thursday February 21, 8:05 am ET


WILMINGTON, Del.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--HyPower Fuel Inc. (HFI) (Pinksheets: HYPF - News) is pleased to provide this Environmental Energy Update about it’s environmentally friendly, green energy technologies.
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Mr. Douglas Bender, President of HyPower Fuel, enthusiastically stated that “in the past few months HyPower Fuel has been working diligently on a number of different environmentally friendly energy technologies including, but not limited to, hydrogen production and insertion. We performed a critical analysis of all of the technologies in the HFI portfolio and have channeled our energies to those technologies which we feel will earn the Company and its shareholders the most immediate return on their investment”.

Doug Bender went on to say that “because of this new focus, HyPower believes that it has developed new applications and interest for its technologies which will generate a number of major contracts with recognizable customers in the very near future. We are currently negotiating a number of contracts which should prove to be very profitable and will require little or no capital outlay from the Company. We expect to release more information on these technology applications and the contracts over the next few months.”

[Bushidopupil]

I know this is a pretty general pr. but I am still pleased. Soon to be laughing all the way to tahiti.:biggrin::lol:

[Theboundbook]

Really happy with this. Volume up huge % wise on day. (Though still low.) I really think alot of people have lost sight of this company. I knew this is gonna be a long hauler that has potential to get to the NASDAQ someday..... Really believe in this puppy.

[Bushidopupil]

Really happy with this. Volume up huge % wise on day. (Though still low.) I really think alot of people have lost sight of this company. I knew this is gonna be a long hauler that has potential to get to the NASDAQ someday..... Really believe in this puppy.

I agree with you boundbook, it is only a matter of when....not if, this company goes through the roof...

[Theboundbook]

Up 20% because of the news this morning.... Keep coming baby! Almost up 100% from my buy in!

[Theboundbook]

Hit .0035. Never seen it that high since Ive owned it. This is gonna be a money maker too.

[Theboundbook]

Hypf up 56% to NICKEL!!!!!!!!!!! OH YEA BABY!!!

[Bushidopupil]

I will say it again, but this is the last time, NOT IF, BUT WHEN! I believe that it will be way past a dollar by the end of June. :biggrin: I salute the other longs...

[ScottyTrade]

:biggrin:
Here is some details for a very good day.
About 200k shares between .03-.035 from 9:30-Noon
About 160k shares at .04 between 3:00-3:45
20k shares at .05 just before 4:00
This should get us on some radars for a good next week.
I know you guys aren't as into day watching, but this is some good indication of the ensuing climb. I'm sure glad I picked up another 200k more shares the last couple months. Sold none.

[Bushidopupil]

:biggrin:
Here is some details for a very good day.
About 200k shares between .03-.035 from 9:30-Noon
About 160k shares at .04 between 3:00-3:45
20k shares at .05 just before 4:00
This should get us on some radars for a good next week.
I know you guys aren't as into day watching, but this is some good indication of the ensuing climb. I'm sure glad I picked up another 200k more shares the last couple months. Sold none.

Yes, I would say that 56.25% today will most certainly get some attention!:dance:

[Theboundbook]

R u kidding me? Nobody is talking about this one? Up another 20%. I have made over 400% on my origianl investment and I know this is one that is going to the dollar show and beyond THIS YEAR. I have believed in this and just that dumb PR about generally nothing but shallow, "Hey this is what we are doing and where we are going", does that to the stock, can you imagine when the PR comes out with all the Facts? Get in now! This will get to a dime to a quarter in the next 30 days.

[kjk]

A lot of us have been going through the push down for some time now so guess we are just numb to it all. The pps games are and have been endless for a very long time.

No doubt that this techology can be every bit as important as the First Solar success you were talking about. In fact, the combination of solar with an electrolyzer is one of the most ultimate forms of energy production. Imagine the combination! First Solar would be competing against a lot of people in order to grab a hold of the most efficient electrolyzer around. Like GE....like Honda....etc. etc.

Wonder if the mm's are still in a position to hold this thing back? They better finally start worrying about losing more, and work on buying back before they really get frustrated. Thus far I think they've been acting like a spoiled child. IMO their "Mine Mine" childish/selfish behavior is going to get the best of them if they don't take their lumps and cut the crap.

"Dirty deeds [allows Theboundbook to get shares] done dirt cheap"

Better you than them. I'm sure they have enough shares. Just to them it's never enough.

[Theboundbook]

Well guys, still on the move and still havent sold a share. And I wont. This is gonna go up to a buck and beyond... A year, fine. 2 years, fine. But this has Nasdaq written all over it. And I, with lots of shares at .016 a share am quite happy with the volume up and the price moving up each day. Up to .07 right now. Almost 500% for me, and whats scary is I dont want to sell a share of it. 99% of the stocks I have bought and that have gone up all of them but this one has come down below my original buy within 6 mos. All of them but this one. And its got a long way to fall before I am worried. I dont want to seem like a pump and dumper of this stock, but I really believe in this company and know if you get in now, you wont lose in the long run.

DONT U GUYS FIND IT WEIRD THAT THERE HASNT BEEN ANY SHORTING OF THIS STOCK WITH THE CLIMB FROM .03 TO .07?????


I think the company itself is buying shares and selling none. It just moves up up up.

[Theboundbook]

Finally. I saw it drop from .07 to .0675. But not for long. Back to .07 and ready to move again it looks like. The bid and ask are almost together....

[kjk]

Now I didn't hear this myself, but have no doubt this discussion happened. The person that told me about this has no reason to say it if it wasn't true. They were a bit thrown off when they heard what they were saying on this talk show because I have been talking about this technology so often and for so long. Because I didn't hear it myself there may be bits that aren't exact (like what their discussion was exactly about).

Late last night / early this morning, on a major radio station (first radio station in the country I believe) they were having a discussion about what we can do to help with the fuel/energy crisis. A truck driver called into the show and said that people should buy the device he has on his truck. It injects Hydrogen into the engine. Said that it improved his mileage (I believe what I heard he said was a range from like the high teens to the 20's [percentage improvement]) and talked about how it makes the exhaust cleaner for the environment.

The host (I believe it was the host) said I think I heard about that. Do they make it in Canada? And the truck driver said yes.

Now obviously there's competition in Canada. But no matter for me. It's a cumon'. Continually I see reasons that the games that have been played, are being played. This area is simply going to be HUGE!

Be calm. Be patient. If you can't handle the games, should go somewhere else, because imo there is so much potential here that there is no end to what they will do. And thus far there hasn't been an end to what they have done in the effort to have it all. I believe however that their plans keep backfiring. It's not working. Shame.

Will I be surprised if they take it down as hard as up....NO. Will I be surprised if people continue to hop on board and take more of their shares? HECK NO!

[Ericp501]

I like water/methanol injection.. You can buy a kit for like $200. If you have a car that needs premium gas you can install this kit and it puts a fine mist of water/methanol into the intake, the high temps turn it into a vapor which cools the engine and the methanol has an octane of 116. So you can actually run regular gas in a high performace engine and save a ton of money. It also gives huge performance increases.. works best on turbo/supercharged cars.. I know its kinda off topic, and has nothing to do with stocks. But it will save you money and just figured I'd let ya all know.

[kjk]

I like water/methanol injection.. You can buy a kit for like $200. If you have a car that needs premium gas you can install this kit and it puts a fine mist of water/methanol into the intake, the high temps turn it into a vapor which cools the engine and the methanol has an octane of 116. So you can actually run regular gas in a high performace engine and save a ton of money. It also gives huge performance increases.. works best on turbo/supercharged cars.. I know its kinda off topic, and has nothing to do with stocks. But it will save you money and just figured I'd let ya all know.

Come again?? Now that's funny!

Interesting how quickly you responded. You keep an eye on this stock thread? First post here too? Where have you been? Why didn't you mention this sooner? Totally ridiculous.

I see you watch TDCP as well.

[Ericp501]

lol na I don't really watch it that much... I just decided to check it out.. I don't think there is a market for water/meth injection.. I'm just saying its pretty awesome. Ya know just being friendly lol

[Ericp501]

And what is totally ridiculous?

[Ericp501]

They used to have water injection on old buicks.. i think they stopped it just for the simple fact that you'd have to continue to fill the water tank.. You could put like a 3 gallon tank in the trunk and just fill it with windsheild wiper fluid.. its made of water and meth. Its really good for your car keeping it cool, high octane and cleans the inside of the engine. If a company ever goes public with that I'd be in

[kjk]

They used to have water injection on old buicks.. i think they stopped it just for the simple fact that you'd have to continue to fill the water tank.. You could put like a 3 gallon tank in the trunk and just fill it with windsheild wiper fluid.. its made of water and meth. Its really good for your car keeping it cool, high octane and cleans the inside of the engine. If a company ever goes public with that I'd be in

Keep trying...

I Know what you're going to say...."what do you mean keep trying?"

[Ericp501]

Then why don't you explain it? Look man if you think I'm trying to pump some company or something I'm not. I'm not saying this company wont do great things, I'm sure it will. I was just letting people know if this is something they are interested on a personal level you could get a very similar kit for very cheap.. Just do a search on google. I've been a long time member of this forum and I was on Marketmillionaires, the forum that started this one with over 300 posts. So I don't know what you are getting at, but I don't like how you are starting. So maybe you should explain yourself so I don't have the wrong Idea

[kjk]

There has been a lot of frustration on this one (HYPF). And your timing and what you posted goes right along with that. If it's genuine, fine. Personally I don't see what you're talking about. Cooling an engine is completely different than what we're talking about. You're not improving combustion at all as far as I would see.

No matter. HYPF is about more than just injection anyway. I was just real pleased to hear what I heard. This public understanding of Hydrogen and what it is going to do for us is happening...and NOW. And it's critical that it does.

[Ericp501]

K well cool your jets.. The water cools the methanol at 116 octane does the rest.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engines) there is a quick link to give you an idea of what I was talking about... I've learned its best to invest in things you are personally interested in. So I figured I'd just let everyone know there are basic kits out there. I'm not trying to steal this company's thunder. And it doesn't matter "as far as you can see" its what it does and I'm just letting everyone know. I hope this company does everything everyone wants it too. I'm sure your emotion for the companies you invest in wont get the best of you.

[kjk]

No. It won't get the best of me. Thanks for your concern.

LOL. Your link doesn't link to anything but nothing. Might want to fix that

Here you go. I'll help you out..........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engines)

Your parenthesis was messed up. Don't mention it

Read it, and feel the same as before I read it. Dr. Ricketts even mentioned in his video how they injected some water in their Hydrogen car to get the steam engine effect. Looks like cooling plus water causing a steam engine effect.

Haven't changed my opinion on it, but thanks for the info.

Also there's this said in your link....."The drawback of the system is that injecting water quenches the flame in the combustion chambers somewhat, as there is no way to cool the engine parts without cooling the flame accidentally. This leads to unburned fuel out the exhaust and a characteristic trail of black smoke."

Not a good thing imo.

Water with Hydrogen is a different story, just like Dr. Ricketts demonstrated.

[Ericp501]

spanks..

[kjk]

Anyways.......was really exciting to hear about that discussion on the talk show.

Imagine what it will be like when that discussion occurs on CNBC!

Wake up Time for ALL!

[kjk]

Forgot to mention...

Anyone notice the acronym that HyPower used for the first time in their last PR?

For me it says commercialization. And I like how it looks very much. I like the full name HyPower Fuel as well, but, easier to fit HFI on the hardware. And a great way for an up and coming company to get their branding out there as well imo.

http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=hypower+fuel&st=NL&nml=True&t=&a=&src=PICS&src=MAPS&src=MAGS&src=TRAN&src=WHITEPAPER&src=WIRE&src=PREL&src=NEWS&src=ALM&src=BOOKS&src=DICT&src=ENCY&src=THES&count=20&offset=0&sort=DT&sortdir=D&pst=INCLUDE_ALL&cn=&storage=ALL&display=ONSITE&sponsor=ALL&docclass=ALL&relatedid=&bid=&embargo=False

[Theboundbook]

Well, I went back through all of the msgs on this thread from #1. I now see why people are frustrated with this stock. I got lucky to get in when I did at 1.7 or 1.6 cents while others were in the .08 + per share. I think this is going up. I have yet to see a penny stock not get shorted, usually in the same day, when a 50% + move happens. We have had a 56%, a 20%, and yesterday a 35% jump and hardly anyone has cashed anything in. This is what makes me wonder.... are insiders "trying to horde" as much stock as possible and then release the news? Or is it that most people in this are still down on the stock from last year and are hoping for green? Or do people just believe in this stock like I do and are willing to not sell a share for a while, risking their original investment still.... Just wanted to see some opinions on this.... And guys, yes I AM WAY EXCITED about the profit and potential I see in the near future.... A year or less and I wouldnt be surprised to see this listed on Nasdaq and hitting 3 bucks or more..... We'll see.

[Bushidopupil]

NASDAQ, I agree. 3 bucks or more, I agree. LONG and holding strong. I will see three, five, ten bucks...:biggrin:

[kjk]

Well, I went back through all of the msgs on this thread from #1. I now see why people are frustrated with this stock. I got lucky to get in when I did at 1.7 or 1.6 cents while others were in the .08 + per share. I think this is going up. I have yet to see a penny stock not get shorted, usually in the same day, when a 50% + move happens. We have had a 56%, a 20%, and yesterday a 35% jump and hardly anyone has cashed anything in. This is what makes me wonder.... are insiders "trying to horde" as much stock as possible and then release the news? Or is it that most people in this are still down on the stock from last year and are hoping for green? Or do people just believe in this stock like I do and are willing to not sell a share for a while, risking their original investment still.... Just wanted to see some opinions on this.... And guys, yes I AM WAY EXCITED about the profit and potential I see in the near future.... A year or less and I wouldnt be surprised to see this listed on Nasdaq and hitting 3 bucks or more..... We'll see.

When you're bored, should go to the beginning of this. A good few days reading:

http://www.marketmillionaires.com/hot-micro-cap-stock-picks-under-1-00/5956-hypf-new-alt-energy-135.html

I'm not sure which of the above I would choose. I see a big-time technology, a heck of a lot of manipulation, and people (investors) who see the potential and have no intention to not be a part of this (meaning they aren't selling).

Even though many bought higher, imagine many of them bought low as well that brought down their avg. Sounds like a good percentage are back above center on an average basis. IMO to the MM's chagrin. Not what was expected. They rule the roost, and there's no end to what they get away with. Did you know that?

Investors didn't sell with all of the pressure and when people were telling them their shares were worthless. And I don't believe they are going to sell with more MM games. There's just too much potential here, and the longer time passes the more frustrated the people trying to accumulate (but losing shares) are going to get. Actually is probably at the boiling point already imo.

[BullishBear]

hey sports fans, i've been out for about a week. what's going on and why are we running? is it the coming divi date? when is it? or are we passed that?

[Theboundbook]

Up another 41.98% today!!!! Up to .115 now!!!!!! Up 1000% for me! Woohoooo!!!!!!

[Ericp501]

Wow congrats to everyone who was waiting on this one!!

:dance:

[Theboundbook]

Well ended up another 41.98% to .115 I bought a bunch more at .11 towards the end of the day. I just dont see a stop to this. This is not acting a like a regular pinky.... No one is shorting! Or if they are, there are plenty of people ready to buy, whatever the price. Love to see .20 by the end of the week!

[kjk]

Well ended up another 41.98% to .115 I bought a bunch more at .11 towards the end of the day. I just dont see a stop to this. This is not acting a like a regular pinky.... No one is shorting! Or if they are, there are plenty of people ready to buy, whatever the price. Love to see .20 by the end of the week!

Welcome aboard. I have to say you are a breath of fresh air Theboundbook. It has been a long time coming imo. You and this.

[Theboundbook]

Welcome aboard. I have to say you are a breath of fresh air Theboundbook. It has been a long time coming imo. You and this.

Why thank you. Been posting about this since early Dec (when I bought my first shares)... Just loving whats been going on and I am glad I give you a breath of fresh air..... What amazes me is that no one seems to be cashing in yet on the huge profits (at least in pinky terms) by shorting. It seems like people know that this is THE THING to hold onto. Or, some inside chit is going on that I dont know about and all of "them" are picking up as many shares as possible. Either way, I am happy, happy, happy!

[kjk]

Why thank you. Been posting about this since early Dec (when I bought my first shares)... Just loving whats been going on and I am glad I give you a breath of fresh air..... What amazes me is that no one seems to be cashing in yet on the huge profits (at least in pinky terms) by shorting. It seems like people know that this is THE THING to hold onto. Or, some inside chit is going on that I dont know about and all of "them" are picking up as many shares as possible. Either way, I am happy, happy, happy!

It's only the beginning. Once people have a true understanding of what Hydrogen is all about, and what it's use in the future holds for us, particularly with renewable energy sources, it is going to be a revolutionary experience.

As well as opening everyone's eyes to us wasting our fossil fuels. Not just the fact that we're going to run out someday not too far out there (not all that many generations imo) because we simply burn it. Consumption climbing while developing wells and extracting is not, and soon to decline (if not declining already) from the looks of it. What's 2+2? People will look back after they understand what's what, and just like I do now they won't believe that it took so long for everyone to see it.

I'm a very experienced and very good Chemical Engineer and I never appreciated this issue with fossil fuels was this severe until I started looking at HyPower. Can't believe it, but it's the case. That's why I understand that people just don't see it. Or at least haven't seen it. It's as if we as a society have been brainwashed (complacent however is probably a better description). Even if we come up with a replacement energy source 50 years out, it might save our Grandchildren's children's lives, but they aren't going to be able to enjoy anything that we enjoy today, even if the energy source was put together last minute. Burning the oil takes everything we will have in the future away. Never to be had again. Plus it pollutes our environment.

I'm not thinking that HyPower is some God Send. But seeing what they are doing opened my eyes. They had vision many years ago, and after I saw it only a few years ago they made my head turn. And once I understood, I had complete respect for what they have been doing and their dedication. People bashed the video, but I saw genuiness in it. And excitement. And it went perfectly in line with the potential I see. After they opened my eyes to it.

I will do what I can to ensure that people are aware and to wake up like I have. And I will work as hard as I can to cut out the greed that gets in the way of people seeing it and having it. Today...not Tomorrow.

If You participate in making it happen, you should prosper. If you demoralize it and impeed it, you should not.

[Theboundbook]

It's only the beginning. Once people have a true understanding of what Hydrogen is all about, and what it's use in the future holds for us, particularly with renewable energy sources, it is going to be a revolutionary experience.

As well as opening everyone's eyes to us wasting our fossil fuels. Not just the fact that we're going to run out someday not too far out there (not all that many generations imo) because we simply burn it. Consumption climbing while developing wells and extracting is not, and soon to decline (if not declining already) from the looks of it. What's 2+2? People will look back after they understand what's what, and just like I do now they won't believe that it took so long for everyone to see it.

I'm a very experienced and very good Chemical Engineer and I never appreciated this issue with fossil fuels was this severe until I started looking at HyPower. Can't believe it, but it's the case. That's why I understand that people just don't see it. Or at least haven't seen it. It's as if we as a society have been brainwashed (complacent however is probably a better description). Even if we come up with a replacement energy source 50 years out, it might save our Grandchildren's children's lives, but they aren't going to be able to enjoy anything that we enjoy today, even if the energy source was put together last minute. Burning the oil takes everything we will have in the future away. Never to be had again. Plus it pollutes our environment.

I'm not thinking that HyPower is some God Send. But seeing what they are doing opened my eyes. They had vision many years ago, and after I saw it only a few years ago they made my head turn. And once I understood, I had complete respect for what they have been doing and their dedication. People bashed the video, but I saw genuiness in it. And excitement. And it went perfectly in line with the potential I see. After they opened my eyes to it.

I will do what I can to ensure that people are aware and to wake up like I have. And I will work as hard as I can to cut out the greed that gets in the way of people seeing it and having it. Today...not Tomorrow.

If You participate in making it happen, you should prosper. If you demoralize it and impeed it, you should not.

You are seeing what I am seeing.This is what the world HAS TO FIGURE OUT QUICKLY! The money to be made from this is going to be astronomical in the long run and is going to save millions of tons of pollution in the coming years. I too, hope that people see this sooner rather than later..... Well said.

[greencat]

This is not a solictation to sell. But rather a logical historical look at penny stocks.

We know that there is nothing more fun than to be on the rocket. Penny stocks sometimes breakout with enomours force but come back to orbit. It happens all the time. Todays rocket is next weeks old news. Not to say that it will not pick up steam again another day but we are dealing with the penny monster. Profit takers market makers and CEO's.

I ask you to play wisely and use logic. It has not given a sell signal yet. It has a gap today. It most likely will go up tomorrow. I guarentee you at some point the profit takes are going to overwhelm with sells and its going to come back.

Alot of us here like to take our intial cost out of a stock like this and ride free shares. Some of us lock in profits. A lot of us look for the reversal signal and then unload it thus playing it smart while retaining the right to buy back if the situation warrents it.

If you are unsure of a reversal signal ask one of us that have experience with these kind of plays.

I see this too often when people start dreaming of the rags to riches story and posting astronomical numbers. The playing field is littered with dreamers that were on the rocket that fell back to earth. See TDCP thread.The list is very distingused and there are a lot of odds against this hitting astronmical numbers.

I hope I didn't put a damper on your ride..

And of course a big fat congratulations on one heck of a great play

[Theboundbook]

It didnt, and I appreciate your input. I am still "green" at all of this day trading penny stocks. I have seen that every single one that has gone up has always come down in the long run. I have yet to see one in the last month or two hang up there. I know there will be a period of selling, there has to be. I am just surprised at how long this has gone on and I am not sure why. What sign do I look for in this "reversal sign" you speak of. I get out when it appears panic is setting in (RVGD seems to do that alot) and buy when I think it has bottomed again. That so far, has worked for me. The thing is with this one, is that it seems different. I said this when it was a .03 and I had instantly doubled my money. I normally would have sold half and kept the rest for free. But not HYPF. I think this is gonna go up another .10 or so and then some selling and then bounce even higher with the bottom being .10 instead of .03.... and overtime get up to possible Nasdaq status. But sure, Im watching this from 9:30 -4:00 everyday in front of my computer, not missing a trade or a move. I have the time to do it and now it seems to be paying off.... At least for now.

[kjk]

Thanks for the advice. I know this is something that's said all the time in this environment, but I'll say it anyways:

A lot of us don't see this as a typical pinkie. It has never acted like a typical pinkie other than the mm manipulation to push it down and keep it down. The pressure people were put under was incredible as the pps was pushed down. And they did not cave. Also many investors in this stock seem not to be big pinkie people. I'm one of them.

This Company is in a technology area that is the biggest opportunity that anyone could ever imagine being a part of. Just like if you sold on Monday afternoon. You sell, you're out. If you do it, just need to understand that you are doing it for a reason. No matter what happens you made the decision, and for you and your circumstances the decision was made. And need to not look back and question your decision. Just like I didn't look back and question my decision when I bought at 0.09 and didn't sell at 0.54

And the biggest thing imo. Many of the bashers are not pinkie people. And they are plentiful. Why such interest from that crowd? And still working hard to bash a stock that's up nearly 6-fold from when they bashed it last week. A lot of work coming from non-pinkie people to convince "simple" investors. So they think anyways.

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/HYPF.PK

[Weirdharold]

Not much discussion here today? Didn't turn out nearly as bad as it looked like it would during the earlier part of the day, but I would be careful here. Money really flowed out of this stock today! The +DI and the - DI of the ADX did abrupt about faces yesterday and started back in the other direction... not a good sign.... You may want to prepare for a pull back again tomorrow...

If you are still in I hope I am wrong... but indicators are not looking their best anymore.

[kjk]

Not much discussion here today? Didn't turn out nearly as bad as it looked like it would during the earlier part of the day, but I would be careful here. Money really flowed out of this stock today! The +DI and the - DI of the ADX did abrupt about faces yesterday and started back in the other direction... not a good sign.... You may want to prepare for a pull back again tomorrow...

If you are still in I hope I am wrong... but indicators are not looking their best anymore.

Lot of money flowed out of it huh? Don't think so. Shares were barely trickling through as the pps kept coming up. Very predictable. They're desperate to get their shares back imo.

Aren't you on Titan's website?

[kjk]

Tell him I said Hi

[Guthrie]

Not much discussion here today? Didn't turn out nearly as bad as it looked like it would during the earlier part of the day, but I would be careful here. Money really flowed out of this stock today! The +DI and the - DI of the ADX did abrupt about faces yesterday and started back in the other direction... not a good sign.... You may want to prepare for a pull back again tomorrow...

If you are still in I hope I am wrong... but indicators are not looking their best anymore.

all indicators did an abrupt about face lol. I agree, this didn't drop nearly as much I thought it would. I'm seeing profit taking here, so if that's all it is then we'll hopefully get support from the 5 day MA. However, for a 400-500% increase I'd say this held it's ground pretty well. We're still above 50% of the run up so I'm not worried yet, but I will be watching it for the first time in a long while tomorrow to possibly look for an exit point if I don't like what I see. Most of the selling occurred in the first hour of the day so that does suggest MMs trying to shake the tree to see if they could get some sellers.

[Theboundbook]

all indicators did an abrupt about face lol. I agree, this didn't drop nearly as much I thought it would. I'm seeing profit taking here, so if that's all it is then we'll hopefully get support from the 5 day MA. However, for a 400-500% increase I'd say this held it's ground pretty well. We're still above 50% of the run up so I'm not worried yet, but I will be watching it for the first time in a long while tomorrow to possibly look for an exit point if I don't like what I see. Most of the selling occurred in the first hour of the day so that does suggest MMs trying to shake the tree to see if they could get some sellers.


Exactly! They are trying to set a panic so people will dump em and the company can get em back cheap. This may go down some more but Im not budging. This is gonna explode here real soon. 500% up and only 21% down overall today after a 50% drop (in the 1st hr).... Again this does not look like or behave like the normal pinky.... Hold you shares people; this will go up more. Surprised I didnt see people bashing it again like they did a week and a half ago right before it shot up like a rocket..... Obviously they knew what was coming this week!

[Guthrie]

Exactly! They are trying to set a panic so people will dump em and the company can get em back cheap. This may go down some more but Im not budging. This is gonna explode here real soon. 500% up and only 21% down overall today after a 50% drop (in the 1st hr).... Again this does not look like or behave like the normal pinky.... Hold you shares people; this will go up more. Surprised I didnt see people bashing it again like they did a week and a half ago right before it shot up like a rocket..... Obviously they knew what was coming this week!

I like people expressing their opinions about stocks and stuff, but do not tell me or anyone else what to do with their shares. This board is full of experienced and inexperienced people looking for the next big thing or trying to learn to trade and people telling others what to do doesn't help anyone, especially those trying to learn.
This thread has far too much hype in my opinion and is borderline pumping if you ask me. I generally don't even read it anymore because I know what's being said already. Please please, keep your posts to your opinions and do not try to state opinions as facts, it helps no one and it actually makes me lose respect for you (this is in general, not specifically about you theboundbook). It's too easy to get caught up in hype and lose sight of your goals, so I encourage those who haven't taken a step back to do so and re-evaluate your goals, ie what they were when you bought in and if they've changed and what caused them to change and I suggest trying to remove all hype/emotion from this evaluation.
As far as I can see, nothing has really changed except a PR with a lot of potential good news. But with that, I hope something good does come out of it because this does act like a typical pinky in the respect that they've broken promises (videos, timelines, etc). Granted some reasons for breaking these promises might be because of patents, we can only speculate on that, so take it for what its worth.

They are trying to set a panic so people will dump em and the company can get em back cheap.
What makes you think the company is buying the shares back? I think it's the MMs doing it and HYPF probably doesn't have the income to start buying back shares.

[kjk]

I don't agree with pretty much everything you said Guthrie except the fact that you think it's the mm's doing this.

Why such negativity and attacks when there are major signs of mm desperation? Did you watch the bid/ask closely today?? And if you did I have no idea how you don't see it. In a hearbeat they take the bid down to 0.060 and ask to I believe 0.065. And an hour or so later it's 0.085 bid and 0.1 ask with very little volume in between. Then they keep trying to lower the bid/ask but can't do it. What does that indicate to you? Not that they're suckering so many people to buy at the high price is it? Other than two big trades at the end of the day, 90% of the volume was in the first hour when they pulled the rug.

These shareholders have been put through the ringer and stayed strong only to hear this? The excitement on this thread is not people trying to get others to buy. If you don't see that your comment isn't fair, I'll do some homework and copy comments from a whole lot of other threads to compare.

If you don't see what the others see here, that's you. You have no right to do unfairly condemn what others see going on. I believe Theboundbook when he says he doesn't care if anyone buys. I don't care if anyone buys either. Could care less. It's nice to have someone come on board to seeing what we see, but not necessarily wanting them to buy. Whom here have you ever heard say BUY BUY BUY here?

And like what I would imagine Theboundbook meant when he said what he said, the only thing I didn't like is mm's scaring shares out of investors by pushing down the pps, and then using those shares to push the pps down more. Like they did once again today imo. And it was totally expected.

Again...I will copy mega bites from other threads if you wish so that we can do a fair comparison. And I will add facts such as a relationship with MTSU and Dr. Ricketts that make this play make much more sense than those which have had comments made that are similar or even much more HYPED than this one. Then add the technology here vs. there. Then add the stock action. How many pinkies have their pps pushed down a tenth of what it was and their average volume doesn't go up?

There are signs that mm's are trying to make this look like a pump and dump. Your comments don't necessarily hurt that deed.

[Theboundbook]

Thank you KJK. And Guthrie, if you knew anything about me in the few months I have been around here posting, I am not someone who tries to pump and dump or bs a thread.... I state what I believe..... I could have cashed in anytime in the last 3 mos. 200% to 500%+. I havent. In fact, I have lost a little bit of cash when I bought in at .11 2 days ago. This stock is different. And it may go back to 3-5 cents. Fine. IT WILL GO BACK UP. IT WILL BE ONE OF THOSE THAT PEOPLE SAY DAMN WISH I GOT IN WHEN IT WAS AT THAT PER SHARE. No reason to bash me, or anyone else backing this stock. Last time I read someone bashing the stock I posted it here and bam it went up 500% in the next 4 days.... So, who are you and why are you hopping in and trying to treat this like any other pinky. This IS NOT ACTING OR BEING like any pinky I have ever seen or played with. AND I BELIEVE IN THE STOCK. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.

[Weirdharold]

So far this morning Guthrie has been right on on this one... it seems to be using the 5 day MA as support and holding pretty nicely. The RSI is curling back upward, but the Money Flow has yet to curl back to an upward direction... Volume weaker than it was averaging over the last week or so... but that is probably a wait see atitude ... like mine... I may have been wrong.... I simply know greed has been my weakness which I am trying to correct... maybe too much so....

Good Luck

[kjk]

So far this morning Guthrie has been right on on this one... it seems to be using the 5 day MA as support and holding pretty nicely. The RSI is curling back upward, but the Money Flow has yet to curl back to an upward direction... Volume weaker than it was averaging over the last week or so... but that is probably a wait see atitude ... like mine... I may have been wrong.... I simply know greed has been my weakness which I am trying to correct... maybe too much so....

Good Luck

You're kidding right? I've stopped wondering why a long time ago on this why people say what they say, and when they say it. But still is pretty mind-boggling when it happens.

Did you get a chance to tell titan that I said hi?

[kjk]

Could you critics please answer a simple question for me? (Although doubt anyone will answer).

As was pointed out elsewhere, financials have been listed on ETrade for the past year and a half. As far as I have seen from the beginning of the shares coming to market.

Reuters also covers them. In fact had them listed as outperform before the pps was dragged through the mud.

Is this typical for pinkies?

Will anxiously be waiting for the answer. More than one responsee would be great!

[Guthrie]

Could you critics please answer a simple question for me? (Although doubt anyone will answer).
As was pointed out elsewhere, financials have been listed on ETrade for the past year and a half. As far as I have seen from the beginning of the shares coming to market.
Reuters also covers them. In fact had them listed as outperform before the pps was dragged through the mud.
Is this typical for pinkies?
Will anxiously be waiting for the answer. More than one responsee would be great!

I will answer when I get home from work later today.

[kjk]

[|)]

[greencat]

Could you critics please answer a simple question for me? (Although doubt anyone will answer).

As was pointed out elsewhere, financials have been listed on ETrade for the past year and a half. As far as I have seen from the beginning of the shares coming to market.

Reuters also covers them. In fact had them listed as outperform before the pps was dragged through the mud.

Is this typical for pinkies?

Will anxiously be waiting for the answer. More than one responsee would be great!

The short answer is yes it is normal. Pinkies are the wild west of stocks. But if you hit them right bam its green city...

[Guthrie]

Since greencat already answered that yes it is normal, I'll agree with him because I don't actually know if it is and he's far more experienced. But having financial up is a "move" done by many pinks to show that they're "getting ready" to uplist. I put some words in quotes to emphasize that some companies act like they're going to uplist as a way to get investors. I'm not saying HYPF is doing that, nor am I saying they're not doing it, I can only speculate and I'm not going to do that. But the point is a lot of the things they do are similar to other pinkies and some of the things they do can be similar to companies that aren't pinkies. Fact is, they're still a pinky so you should be careful.
I'm not bashing HYPF or anyone here. I want people to express opinions and I appreciate that you believe in the stock but if you want to re-read my previous post and then the response you made to it, you'll see your post was grossly overblown. What I don't like to see is people trying to state their opinions as fact, things like: IT WILL GO BACK UP. IT WILL BE ONE OF THOSE THAT PEOPLE SAY DAMN WISH I GOT IN WHEN IT WAS AT THAT PER SHARE. or Hold you shares people; this will go up more.
Now, who am I to comment on stuff like this? I'm a shareholder of this stock as well, I'm red also, but this is a board for people to make green and learn whether it be from mistakes or from other's mistakes. What I don't like to see are people telling me or others what to do with they're shares. In the land of pinkies (this is in general) not really anyone can predict what is going to happen long term. Sure we can predict with a fair degree of accuracy what will happen short term (as the cats are prone to do) but I see no evidence in some of the posts here to back the statements up. As proof that few can predict what will happen long term, reuters covered this stock and said what?
Again, if you want to offer opinions based on facts, charts, PRs, and even throw out some speculation with some reasons why you think so, I'm all for it. But please please, don't try to state your opinion as fact nor think I'm here trying to bash this stock. I'm just trying to prevent others from possibly regretting believing in the hype and not facts/their own DD, whether it be for buying/selling/holding.

[kjk]

You guys go ahead and play with your pinkies...and I'll stay with mine.

[Theboundbook]

KJK: I would love to get your email. See if an administrator here could give you mine. Its ok that you have it. Then shoot me an email and we can chat....

[Theboundbook]

If you don't see what the others see here, that's you. You have no right to do unfairly condemn what others see going on. I believe Theboundbook when he says he doesn't care if anyone buys. I don't care if anyone buys either. Could care less. It's nice to have someone come on board to seeing what we see, but not necessarily wanting them to buy. Whom here have you ever heard say BUY BUY BUY here?

And like what I would imagine Theboundbook meant when he said what he said, the only thing I didn't like is mm's scaring shares out of investors by pushing down the pps, and then using those shares to push the pps down more. Like they did once again today imo. And it was totally expected.

Again...I will copy mega bites from other threads if you wish so that we can do a fair comparison. And I will add facts such as a relationship with MTSU and Dr. Ricketts that make this play make much more sense than those which have had comments made that are similar or even much more HYPED than this one. Then add the technology here vs. there. Then add the stock action. How many pinkies have their pps pushed down a tenth of what it was and their average volume doesn't go up?

There are signs that mm's are trying to make this look like a pump and dump. Your comments don't necessarily hurt that deed.

Wow I hadnt read the thread in a couple of days.... Sure had been a lot of weird chit here. And to make it clear one more time, "I DONT CARE IF YOU BUY STOCK OR NOT". My opinion is mine and mine alone. I do not believe I am pumping this stock at all. I am excited to say the least and as you know from since I joined, I am still a rookie at this and have alot to learn but I spend 10 hrs a day at home reading, learning, and posting. Thats it. All morning. At night, I do sports book stuff; (more studying, learning, posting, etc......) :p. And we'll leave my night job stuff alone.

I dont know why I like this so much I just do. Some people love TDCP, (why I dont know, but that's their opinion and I dont go barking in their about how bad they comment, etc.) I went to the University of Mich. years ago as an EECS major and this is just something that goes along with my background, what I believe in the future, and I am willing to spend MY MONEY on it.

So, with that, I will chill out now and hope this thread continues to have new people and new insights spoken about HYPF.

[Disqplay]

Actually if you want to chat you could do so using private messages if they are not turned off from this forum.

Now looking at the stock price today curious as to how it has been affected by the new commercials on the television currently running by BMW touting there new Green car. I imagine this would not help the pps for this stock. I do not know if the commercial are running nationwide but they sure have been on alot here in the Chicago land area.

Disq

PS and yes I do own the stock with about 50,000 free shares plus the ones I purchased.

[kjk]

http://web.archive.org/web/20060821214432/http://www.hypowerfuel.com/

[greencat]

Lets get back to business. May be ready for a small bounce but more than likely going to go sideways. It needs to hold the 200MA. I dont want to see to much more red on it and needs to hold .05

It has lost its momo amd could take a few months to set up again or if it continues to get beat down people will forget about it.

Please lets stop the bickering. The truth is some of the comments were not in the context I like to see. The poster in question has made to many well thought out comments and some sound advice on other threads. I feel his comments were his feelings/opinions on a market that the sky is the limit. Alternative fuel stocks are going to be some big winners in this economy. The sad facts is in penny land their will be a bandwagon effect with many companies only effort will be to dilute. I am in no way implying that HYPF is doing this. I only ask to play it smart and hope it goes back up..

But I stress this is the penny market and what makes sense today makes no sense tomorrow.

I once bought a stock with a news release that it was going to make 1.3 BILLION dollars in revenue. So what happen? They started diluting the the P/R was false. By the time I sold I had got my buttocks kicked on the PPS.

[greencat]

HyPower Fuel Reports Increased Inquiries from Fleet Operators and Vehicle Owners Seeking Fuel SavingsLast update: 3/4/2008 10:32:01 AMWILMINGTON, Del., Mar 04, 2008

(BUSINESS WIRE) -- HyPower Fuel Inc. (HFI) (Pinksheets: HYPF) is pleased to provide an update on its innovative, hydrogen division which has products for the transportation industry. Mr. Douglas Bender, President of HyPower Fuel, stated that "in the past few months we have had the pleasure of being inundated with calls and orders for our Hydro Power Pak (HPP) and H2 Reactor (H2R) products for hydrogen insertion and production. Currently, we receive a large number of calls every day from purchasers and interested parties desiring to buy one of our products. These callers range from fleet operators to single vehicle owners intent in saving on their fuel usage." Doug Bender also said that "we have been unable to accommodate the calls of demand for our products. This is despite the fact that we have recently decided to increase our retail sale prices by over 10%. We are now in the process of establishing a listing of backordered units which, in all likelihood, will be approximately 1,000 units."

Finally, Mr. Bender reiterated that "HyPower is truly a leader in green, alternative fuel technologies. Soon, we will be releasing the remainder of our hydrogen videos and our new videos on our 'other' green technologies. I am confident that 2008 will be a profitable year for HyPower and its shareholders." About the H2 Reactor (H2R) The H2 Reactor is one of HyPower Fuel's technologies. It is an electrolyzer that uses a unique process of electrolysis to create hydrogen and oxygen gases from water. It can be used on-board for injection into any internal combustion engine. After extensive technical research and development work, HyPower believes that the H2 Reactor's electrolysis process is technologically the most efficient to date in terms of oxy-hydrogen production to an electrical input. The H2 Reactor can be used in any manufacturing, transportation, business or household application involving heat or combustion. HyPower also hopes to adapt this technology for a variety of purposes including improving the production capacity of plants requiring heat processes.

About HyPower Fuel Inc. HyPower Fuel, Inc. is a category leading company in the energy technology sector, focusing on providing innovative alternative energy using environmentally beneficial processes. HyPower is currently commercializing the integration of hydrogen production and hydrogen insertion technologies using electrolysis to improve the overall energy performance and efficiency. For more information please visit: Safe Harbor Statements about the Company's future expectations and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts, are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The Company intends that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbors created thereby. The above information contains information relating to the Company that is based on the beliefs of the Company and/or its management as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to the Company or its management. Factors that could cause results to differ include, but are not limited to, successful performance of internal plans, the impact of competitive services and pricing and general economic risks and uncertainties. SOURCE: HyPower Fuel Inc.

[Bushidopupil]

Ok, here is the part that gets me..."Soon, we will be releasing the remainder of our hydrogen videos and our new videos on our 'other' green technologies. I am confident that 2008 will be a profitable year for HyPower and its shareholders."

We were on hold for quite some time for the patent to come back for the H2R so we could see the vids. I hear that there was a patent done in Feb. I CAN"T FIND THAT INFO. MYSELF, and the poster does not have a stable history, so my question is, WHY NOW DO WE SEE THE VIDS IF NO PATENT IS THERE??? OR MAYBE IT IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER??? Time will tell. My thoughts on this stock have not changed...GO HYPF

[GreenApe]

Weekly PR's would be nice just to keep the juices flowing on this one and to keep it in the NEWS. Even though I view this PR as a non-statement at least Bender is talking to us again. Even though he's still not saying anything. Should help keep a support level up for us. But I am sure tomorrow the mm's will be walking down their 500 & 5000 block stair case dragging down the pps...its become so predictable its sickening. I've been with this one since 2006...I am excited to finally see some momentum build and am wearing my seatbelt for the ride...however, I also have my crash helmet on too. GO HYPF!!!

THE APE.....:dance:

[greencat]

The P/R was just what the doctor ordered.
This caught my attention

This is despite the fact that we have recently decided to increase our retail sale prices by over 10%. We are now in the process of establishing a listing of backordered units which, in all likelihood, will be approximately 1,000 units."

[ScottyTrade]

I don't get it either with the videos and patents. I have searched for any patents and cannot find anything. Old or new, nothing. So how in the world can they be found. kjk, didn't you find some at some point, somewhere?

[Guthrie]

Here's the only video that I know of that was released: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ovkRI8ZG_uM

I don't know about the patents though.

[Bushidopupil]

Yes, that is the only video that has been released, but there are three others that were spoken of back in March-April last year that the company was holding onto due to patent issues. HYPF did not want to show people the H2R until the patents were secured, or a patent pending label was on the H2R.

In the PR today they said we would see the other Hydrogen vids. Those are what I am talking about. So, do we have a patent completed or is it right around the corner and the company is trying to prime us...HHMMM only time will tell.:biggrin:

[Guthrie]

Yes, that is the only video that has been released, but there are three others that were spoken of back in March-April last year that the company was holding onto due to patent issues. HYPF did not want to show people the H2R until the patents were secured, or a patent pending label was on the H2R.

In the PR today they said we would see the other Hydrogen vids. Those are what I am talking about. So, do we have a patent completed or is it right around the corner and the company is trying to prime us...HHMMM only time will tell.:biggrin:

I'm going to assume that the patents aren't in hand yet, otherwise they would've just released the videos instead of giving us a PR about videos being released "soon." However, remember they said soon when they last talked about them so I'll believe there are videos when I actually see the videos. It's been about a year since they've even mentioned the videos so I'd rather have proof of them before I factor them into my decisions. But I can definitely not wait to see them :lol:

[kjk]

I don't get it either with the videos and patents. I have searched for any patents and cannot find anything. Old or new, nothing. So how in the world can they be found. kjk, didn't you find some at some point, somewhere?

You can't let yourself be overcome by bull**** that was posted by those clowns on the other site.

What do those people even know to claim that Bender is the one that is going to get the patent? Likely as far as I'm concerned that they work hard at manipulation and deception, but not DD (why do it if you don't normally have to?).

IMO they know somehow, and not from DD

http://members.shaw.ca/w.elliott/Club.html

"Two people have achieved production of Hydroxy at a rate of one liter per watt hour. They are Doug Bender of High River Alberta, Canada and Bob Boyce of Kentucky U.S.A. The method used was first patented by Sam Rubin in 1922. Patent # 1,431.047. Using this method it is quite easy to start a gasoline engine and idle it on onboard produced gas."

[kjk]

I'm definitely not an expert in this area, but, I would guess that as this number goes up, it's actually a good thing. For pps going up vs. down I mean.

Was bouncing from 100,000 to 150,000. Normally at 150,000. Is the first time since I started looking at this (a month or two ago) that it's at 200,000.

More people are willing to put up their shares to short because they trust that it's likely not going to go down. Seems to go that way anyways for me.

http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/ViewShortableStocks.php?cntry=usa&tag=United%20States&ib_entity=llc&ln=&b=HUM&e=IBC

[Guthrie]

More people are willing to put up their shares to short because they trust that it's likely not going to go down. Seems to go that way anyways for me.


I'm no expert on shorting either but that's how I would interpret it as well, at least on the big boards. Shorting in pinks might be different but I'm not positive.

One way I could think it can be used against the PPS is if HYPF has some sort of toxic financing deal like TDCP does where if the PPS hits a certain point (on the downside) the company providing financing gets an additional amount of shares + a fee. I don't recall HYPF getting any financing like that but they might not announce everything and I would think the company would've already gotten their shares. But the way it would hurt us is if the company put up the shares to short, forced the PPS down, then collected their additional shares for a potential ride up, which is I think is happening with TDCP. Again, I don't think it applies to HYPF because I don't remember any toxic financing deals, just throwing an additional interpretation out, though your's sounds right kjk.

[Theboundbook]

Lots of chat here; good to see. Took a break from here for a few for people to calm down here a bit. I dont wish to cause a rip here. I love this board. Anyways, stock definately fighting its way past MM games and now up to .095. Hope to see .11 today or tomorrow again.

[GreenApe]

HyPower Fuel Combines Its Hydrogen and Biofuel Technologies and Predicts Profitable Operations in 2008
Thursday March 6, 8:28 am ET


WILMINGTON, Del.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--HyPower Fuel Inc. (HFI) (Pinksheets: HYPF - News) is pleased to announce that it has been actively working on utilizing its innovative, green technologies to more efficiently and cost effectively produce biofuels.
ADVERTISEMENT


Mr. Douglas Bender, President of HyPower Fuel, enthusiastically stated that “our new focus came as a result of some opportunities that presented themselves through major potential clients. One of the new applications for our technology has been the more efficient and cost effective production of biofuels. We have established the HyPower Biofuels Limited Partnership to jointly develop and commercialize what we believe to be the most efficient method of producing biofuels in general which includes biodiesel”.

Doug Bender further stated “we have designed and built a small scale biodiesel plant for which we developed an oxy-hydrogen charge reactor based on our H2 Reactor technology. The results that we have achieved on the production of biodiesel can best be described as a great advance in biodiesel production. We have had a number of national and international potential clients visit us recently with the intention of purchasing the rights to the technology for single plants and for entire countries. We are confident that our shareholders will see HyPower achieve impressive profitable operations this year.”

[BullishBear]

okay, don't want to be the bad guy, and feel free to bash away at me, but i've been in this for over a year. i went through this pr every other day run in jan 07. i like it and refused to sell. but i think i'm hopping out today. frankly, these pr's are smoke and mirrors. and exaclty the same thign they were sayign a year ago. i called and talked to steve several times, and frankly, i'm not convinced you can even buy a product from them. they are pinkie, so they don't have to report crap. if you guys want to ride and play momo, fell free, but please don't delude yourself into thinking that this company is going to save us from carbon dioxide and pollution and make us crazy rich at the same time. as much as tdcp sucks, i'm thinking i'm going to sell hypf and put it towards tdcp. i'll still be selling at a loss, but not as big of one as i would have been 2 weeks ago. all imho and fwiw. just trying to give the newbies a little background.

further, not to start name calling, but the bound book is not just posting the praise of hypf here, it's all over ihub.

further, i've tried to play a number of short squeezes and the rumors are never, no never right.

[ScottyTrade]

I agree with you BullishBear that it is kind of the same promising message, but the next year later. However, I firmly believe this is not a scam. They are slow to market, that's for sure and I would have to say they may not even be there yet. I don't think they have a mgmt team in place to really take this to market in a big way. They think they have one or more great products, but they need the patents, and they need a true sales, marketing, manufacturing and distribution partners to make this happen. That's what will legitimize them. Until we see see that, they will remain a pinkie.

[Guthrie]

okay, don't want to be the bad guy, and feel free to bash away at me, but i've been in this for over a year. i went through this pr every other day run in jan 07. i like it and refused to sell. but i think i'm hopping out today. frankly, these pr's are smoke and mirrors. and exaclty the same thign they were sayign a year ago. i called and talked to steve several times, and frankly, i'm not convinced you can even buy a product from them. they are pinkie, so they don't have to report crap. if you guys want to ride and play momo, fell free, but please don't delude yourself into thinking that this company is going to save us from carbon dioxide and pollution and make us crazy rich at the same time. as much as tdcp sucks, i'm thinking i'm going to sell hypf and put it towards tdcp. i'll still be selling at a loss, but not as big of one as i would have been 2 weeks ago. all imho and fwiw. just trying to give the newbies a little background.

further, not to start name calling, but the bound book is not just posting the praise of hypf here, it's all over ihub.

further, i've tried to play a number of short squeezes and the rumors are never, no never right.

I can't blame you for selling but I think it might have been a bad time to sell given the charts right now. I think tomorrow is going to be a big day and if not, then Monday, and if not Monday then I think you made a very very good decision to sell haha. I like the way the STO is turning around right now and that we're sitting on 5/10 day MAs. I want to see the RSI curl back up though and volume isn't bad considering it's over the 20day MA. IMO it's primed and ready to blow. The MMs will hopefully let it run tomorrow after collecting shares today but you're probably right about the PRs being smoke and mirrors. This stock is a huge gamble based on the PRs if you ask me but I try not to factor them into my decisions until I see something that can be proved.

[Theboundbook]

Sell away.... Ill pick your shares up when it gets its new bottom.... Right around. .06. And yea I have been exctied over at Ihub too. But to put your money into TDCP you are joking right? Any other stock on this board has a better chance than that one... IMO. I dont know why everyone has singled me out on this stock! I LOVE it and believe in it. Thats it. RVGD was another one and I cashed in huge a month ago or so. This one is at the beginning of the rise.... Guthrie, I wish you best of luck on your TDCP, nut no reason to knock my enthusiasm about a stock down. Ive done my research on this company and I believe in em. You also have to remember I bought at .016 and .027. I didnt get in last year when it was .50, so I have no reason to be bitter. But I will be happy to buy your shares if it gets back down to .06 ever...


And, this is the ONLY stock I have owned for longer than a week or two tops. Because this is not a normal pinky. MM's are trying to make it act like one, but there are too many people that believe in what they do that arent selling or talking online about it either... I just want people to have a chance to make money with this one and possibly be involved in a company that might make the world a little cleaner, safer, and possibly history with their new innovative ideas...... Thats all.

So all of you want to sell, do it and I will pick em up. Have enough cash saved now to buy 200k at .06; (if it gets down that low again).

And please people, it kinda bums me out that you guys think I am just pumping a stock to make a shorttime profit here. I am in for the LONG HAUL. All the shares I own are free now (sold 12000 to get my money back at 500% profit @ .085 or .09, don't remember).

[Theboundbook]

Here is an article I cut and pasted from another board on an article that was in "The Energy Business Review":

HyPower Fuel reports positive response for hydrogen systems
5th March 2008
By Staff Writer
Renewable fuels firm HyPower Fuel has reported good response for its Hydro Power Pak and H2 Reactor products for hydrogen insertion and production, with parties interested in purchasing the products.



HyPower said that its H2 Reactor is an electrolyzer that uses electrolysis to create hydrogen and oxygen gases from water. It can be used on-board for injection into any internal combustion engine, according to the firm.

The firm said that interested parties range from fleet operators to single vehicle owners intent in saving on their fuel usage. The demand for the products is reportedly more than the supply, even with an increase of 10% in their retail prices.

Douglas Bender, president of HyPower Fuel, said: "We have been unable to accommodate the calls of demand for our products. We are now in the process of establishing a listing of backordered units which, in all likelihood, will be approximately 1,000 units."

[Theboundbook]

"Trying to shake out cheap shares before the run-up. That last trade was a 5,000 share trade - $350 what a joke. They are hoping people see the closing price and react tomorrow and sell. When I see these games happen I know that they are desperate to get shares before it is too late." A quote from another board that I TOTALLY agree with.

Im loading up if it does drop to .06 or lower in the morning. I doubt it does though.

[Bushidopupil]

Looks good from this seat. C U @ the bank.:biggrin:

[Guthrie]

This one is at the beginning of the rise.... Guthrie, I wish you best of luck on your TDCP, nut no reason to knock my enthusiasm about a stock down.
And please people, it kinda bums me out that you guys think I am just pumping a stock to make a shorttime profit here. I am in for the LONG HAUL. All the shares I own are free now (sold 12000 to get my money back at 500% profit @ .085 or .09, don't remember).

1) I didn't say anything bout TDCP, in fact I almost agree with you on it though I do have money in it.
2) I'm not saying you're pumping but what I would like you to do is change the way you're posting. Your recent posts didn't have any of what I didn't really like but some of your previous posts did: posting your opinions as fact. I absolutely want to hear your opinion on things and that you believe in them but I also want to hear your reasoning for believing in them otherwise it looks like pumping.
And to make it clear, saying how much you're going to buy or already have doesn't make your opinion anymore credible unless that's what you're basing your opinion on and I don't think you're doing that, so it really doesn't matter how many shares you have because if you're a shareholder you're a shareholder whether it be 1 share or 100million shares.

I agree with the 5000 block trade at the end, it definitely seems to be MM games. However, with that trade it really does make the charts look really bad so hopefully the MMs will let it run tomorrow as this PR takes affect, though it doesn't really have anything of substance to it.

[GreenApe]

Book...I love the enthusiasm! Most of us have the capacity to differentiate and filter out someone's enthusiasm and enthusiastic opinion from that of stated fact. IN MY OPINION...I can't believe someone actually had the nuts to tell you "how to post on here"...give me a break!!

Enough of the school yard BS...he stole my pencil...who cares! HYPF is about to move...nobody cares about someone's self proclaimed status as "Great Defender of the Thread"

Read between the lines....Have the discipine to not take every single word on here as wrote...move on....GO HYPF

I am excited about HYPF as I have been since I bought it in 2006! Go Baby Go!

[Guthrie]

HYPF is about to move.

I'm not going to address the rest of your post because it does no one any good, but this is exactly what I'm talking about. Give me a reason to see your opinion as valid. Why do you think HYPF is going to move? What are you basing it on? This board has a lot of people learning how to deal with pennies and stocks in general so they want to learn from what you think and how successful traders/investors think, not hype.

[greencat]

Let me make this very clear.
The bickering on this thread just stopped. If there is an offensive post contact me via PM. Or a MOD. Stick to the facts or a legit opinion..

[Theboundbook]

Let me make this very clear.
The bickering on this thread just stopped. If there is an offensive post contact me via PM. Or a MOD. Stick to the facts or a legit opinion..

:):):)

Thank you. My opinion is my opinion.

Now, it appears the bottom has been set here over the last week or two. The last PR that came out kinda seemed bland and nonspecific. But, it did its job. Held interest, and a lot of it. By next week the avg 10 day should be 750k traded a day. With all of the shares being traded on this and now with it holding its value, I believe IMHO, that this is the new bottom and will and can only go up from here. I still believe this will be a NASDAQ stock before year's end.

GO HYPF!!!!!!

Up 15% today!

[Theboundbook]

Over 1 MILLION shares traded today! And 21% up from yesterday,...... Things looking great! Cant wait to see what next week has in store for us shareholders!!!!!

[kjk]

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-38.htm

Include a fantastic legislative video to watch

http://www.sec.gov/news/speech/2008/video0030408cc_short.wmv

Wouldn't be a bad idea to watch this video over and over. It's been a long-time coming. But at least it came.

[kjk]

kjk, bush, have you ever heard of a company by the name of overstock .com or more important its ceo patrick byrne, back in 05 he alledged and tryed to hold accountabile the mm's and naked shorts for the demise of his co. and many others, last month he again addressed some of the same issues at the annual pipes conf. ( watch this-www.deepcapturethemovie.com).

I knew early on that you were a very wise person hyop11.

This news last week is indeed good news. Patrick Byrne should be highly acknowledged and praised for his work to draw attention to this. As well should the legislature for listening, and doing what needs to be done. Now if they start following up with heavy pursuit and prosecutions, we can have more trust in what we invest in, and what we see.

Where have you been hyop11? Miss this valuable insight that you provide.

[kjk]

This video does a great job of talking about what it's all about. It's from a European (UK) company that makes both electrolyzers and fuel cells.

http://www.itm-power.com/technology.html

But....

I still never hear proponents of the Hydrogen Economy state that if we come up with an energy replacement to fossil fuels before they run out, sure it will save everyone from starving/freezing, but, without fossil fuels we won't be able to make hardly anything. This change has to be done ahead of time, long before we run out, so that fossil fuels that remain can be converted to all of the many things and chemicals/medicines that are derived from those fossil fuels today.

http://www.itm-power.com/video_3.php?format=win

[Guthrie]

Ok, I said it might've been a good decision to sell if it didn't move by Monday. Well, it hasn't moved but I might've been wrong about what I said. Right now it looks like a good decision to have sold but it's still in a setup that would allow it to move. Still got the 5day MA as support, nice volume and sto is ready to turn around whenever MMs want to let it go. I didn't see the closing but from the looks of the charts, MMs played with it, with 90k+ shares bought (or sold) in the last minute and an opposing transaction after that.
Boundbook was probably right to say this is the new bottom (I'm assuming the 200day MA). I don't want to see it drop lower than that though because that means it's probably 1) a pump and dump (though it's not acting like one right now) or 2) people are losing interest and we need more PRs. And if we need PRs to keep this afloat, that's just not good. However, I will say I'm looking forward to the next PR if it has some substance and let's us know deals have been signed, patents are filed, or videos are released. Something we can actually check up on, not these fluff PRs that we have to take management's word on.
Come on $1!

BTW, here's the requirements for uplisting to the NASDAQ: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/121.asp

[BullishBear]

This video does a great job of talking about what it's all about. It's from a European (UK) company that makes both electrolyzers and fuel cells.

http://www.itm-power.com/technology.html

But....

I still never hear proponents of the Hydrogen Economy state that if we come up with an energy replacement to fossil fuels before they run out, sure it will save everyone from starving/freezing, but, without fossil fuels we won't be able to make hardly anything. This change has to be done ahead of time, long before we run out, so that fossil fuels that remain can be converted to all of the many things and chemicals/medicines that are derived from those fossil fuels today.

http://www.itm-power.com/video_3.php?format=win

with all due respence, why do you post links to other copmanies technologies? isn't hypf what we are interested in? i think this company, or lack of, is in the same place they were when they went public a year and half ago. read the old pr's and tell me if i'm wrong. where are the profits from all the "interest" even from the "govenrment"?

[Theboundbook]

Well, trading has definately slowed down and it appears I was somewhat right on the new bottom. Love it! 500% up and now its sitting on the next step toward the all mighty dollar day. I really love this stock. Anyways, if this does drop to .06 (which I doubt), I will be buying back in, otherwise Im just gonna sit and count my profits all summer.

[greencat]

Well, trading has definately slowed down and it appears I was somewhat right on the new bottom. Love it! 500% up and now its sitting on the next step toward the all mighty dollar day. I really love this stock. Anyways, if this does drop to .06 (which I doubt), I will be buying back in, otherwise Im just gonna sit and count my profits all summer..

Please don't post this way."The next step toward the all mighty dollar day.
You have no idea what this stock is going to do. They may dilute or something else. The penny market can change in an instant.

I do not want newer traders to be mislead by outlandish statements. This is a risky business and I know to many long term holders that became stuckholders.

Strong support at .07 next area of strong support .03. resistance at .09 and
.12

[kjk]

with all due respence, why do you post links to other copmanies technologies? isn't hypf what we are interested in? i think this company, or lack of, is in the same place they were when they went public a year and half ago. read the old pr's and tell me if i'm wrong. where are the profits from all the "interest" even from the "govenrment"?

Are the TDCP posters allowed to post information on their technology area even if the source might be not of TDCP (which of course it would have to be) or one of their potential competitors? Some consistency here please!

Same place as a year ago? You think, I don't. You sold (at least you said you were going to), I didn't. I'm fine with that. I'm also fine if noone else buys. As I have been for the past year +.

Besides....I'm pretty much the only one posting DD. And much of what I have posted was based on HyPower. Let's have at it. Show more than just talking points.

When has TDCP shown their investors their technology? But you move from here to there? Fine. Do it. No skin off my back.

[greencat]

Are the TDCP posters allowed to post information on their technology area even if the source might be not of TDCP (which of course it would have to be) or one of their potential competitors? Some consistency here please!

Same place as a year ago? You think, I don't. You sold (at least you said you were going to), I didn't. I'm fine with that. I'm also fine if noone else buys. As I have been for the past year +.

Besides....I'm pretty much the only one posting DD. And much of what I have posted was based on HyPower. Let's have at it. Show more than just talking points.

When has TDCP shown their investors their technology? But you move from here to there? Fine. Do it. No skin off my back.

Valid point. I dont mind you posting revelant post related to the subject.
I am a big "green" fuel fan. I must say that you have only hit the tip of the iceberg on this subject. Hydrogen was going to be used for automobiles at the first part of the last century but oil was discovered and it was cheaper..

But lets dont get carried away. I can start a new forum on bio fuels if need be..

[BullishBear]

Valid point. I dont mind you posting revelant post related to the subject.
I am a big "green" fuel fan. I must say that you have only hit the tip of the iceberg on this subject. Hydrogen was going to be used for automobiles at the first part of the last century but oil was discovered and it was cheaper..

But lets dont get carried away. I can start a new forum on bio fuels if need be..

yeah, my point is that, even on tdcp, they created a new thread on 3 d technologies. and the way you are post, comes across to me, that you are trying to get people to invest in hydrogen and that's why you post other links. most people, myself included, do not think basic hydrolysis is the answer for generating hydrogen. furthermore, it was determined a while back that there are competing technologies that are more affordable then what hypf is offerering. the only reason i'm inclined to post here, is that you are a pumpy longstocking and i don't want any newbies to buy your crap hook line and sinker. the last year has been terrible for this stock and their pr is pure fluff. hell, i could put a pr out saying i think i'm going to make money soon. and in terms of tdcp, i could care less, and you are absolutley right. they've showed very little, but evidence does support that they are tryign to do what they say they are trying to do and there are not any other products on the market currently doing what they are trying to do. which stock is better? neither, because neither is a profitable company. which is the best speculative investment? well that's debatable, but i don't like the way you post and i think gc backs me up. this is not a pumpers forum. and i went to sell and realized how red i still am. not worth selling, might as well hope they can keep pumping this until i'm even.

[kjk]

yeah, my point is that, even on tdcp, they created a new thread on 3 d technologies. and the way you are post, comes across to me, that you are trying to get people to invest in hydrogen and that's why you post other links. most people, myself included, do not think basic hydrolysis is the answer for generating hydrogen. furthermore, it was determined a while back that there are competing technologies that are more affordable then what hypf is offerering. the only reason i'm inclined to post here, is that you are a pumpy longstocking and i don't want any newbies to buy your crap hook line and sinker. the last year has been terrible for this stock and their pr is pure fluff. hell, i could put a pr out saying i think i'm going to make money soon. and in terms of tdcp, i could care less, and you are absolutley right. they've showed very little, but evidence does support that they are tryign to do what they say they are trying to do and there are not any other products on the market currently doing what they are trying to do. which stock is better? neither, because neither is a profitable company. which is the best speculative investment? well that's debatable, but i don't like the way you post and i think gc backs me up. this is not a pumpers forum. and i went to sell and realized how red i still am. not worth selling, might as well hope they can keep pumping this until i'm even.

Yeah right. Your words are what is a bunch of crap.

[greencat]

Yeah right. Your words are what is a bunch of crap.

No, it is not a bunch of crap. This is not the way we reply to adversity. If you disagree than dispute it with facts. This is what happpens when you post on only one stock.

It is evident you are tied up into this stock big time. I have received several complaints from other posters other than guthrie and BB about your attitude.
They are also concerned that you are trying to lead other newer traders astray with untimely posting on this stock.

SMC doesn't work in that manner. We will sacrifice members just to keep it real. As real as possible in a tough genre of making money.

Majority rules, either comply to our rules or fade.

[kjk]

No, it is not a bunch of crap. This is not the way we reply to adversity. If you disagree than dispute it with facts. This is what happpens when you post on only one stock.

It is evident you are tied up into this stock big time. I have received several complaints from other posters other than guthrie and BB about your attitude.
They are also concerned that you are trying to lead other newer traders astray with untimely posting on this stock.

SMC doesn't work in that manner. We will sacrifice members just to keep it real. As real as possible in a tough genre of making money.

Majority rules, either comply to our rules or fade.

The evident thing is not that I'm tied up with this thing. How did I know he didn't sell? If I post that I'm selling, I sell. And I surely don't post bashing statements for the first time and not tell anyone straight up that I didn't sell.

You didn't have a problem with what he said, huh? Others complained about me? First I have heard.

Who needs this? Surely not me.

Cya

[Aufan 1983]

ok...KJK left and I ban him to make sure so now back to your normal programing....:lol:

[aoles]

ok...KJK left and I ban him to make sure so now back to your normal programing....:lol:

Its his loss anyways

[Theboundbook]

On the 12th:

Press Release Source: HyPower Fuel Inc.

HyPower Fuel Releases Details on Ultra-Green Biodiesel Process and HyPower Fuel Limited Partnership Format
Wednesday March 12, 11:03 am ET

WILMINGTON, Del.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--HyPower Fuel Inc. (Pinksheets: HYPF - News) is pleased to release details on its newly acquired ultra-green biodiesel process for the North American market.

Mr. Douglas Bender, President of HyPower Fuel, reports that “we firmly believe that our biodiesel process is the world’s most cost-effective and environmentally friendly method of producing biodiesel. Our process uses no water and virtually no hazardous chemicals other than methanol, which is a common denominator in any biodiesel process. Due to the fact that we use no chemicals in pre-treatment, we do not have any phosphates or sulfates which have to be removed. Having no pre-treatment and post-treatment dramatically reduces our input and operating costs. In addition, our reaction time from feedstock to a biodiesel product meeting ASTM standards is approximately two hours. These are all major improvements over conventional biodiesel technologies.”

Doug Bender went on to say that “our small scale biodiesel plant has been a virtual gold mine in providing a Proof of Technology and in displaying how the process works to interested parties. All visitors who have seen the plant in operation have been extremely impressed and we are now fielding proposals for use of our technology within the HyPower Fuels Limited Partnership (HFLP) format that we have developed. Essentially the HFLP format is a joint venture that provides for HyPower to provide the technology and technical expertise in return for a 50% ownership of biodiesel plants built using our “best in class” technology. The remaining 50% would be owned by our funding partner. Each plant built under the HFLP format would provide a positive revenue stream to HyPower in terms of royalties, technical fees, construction fees and operating profits. We have received a number of expressions of interest from major entities wishing to be a partner for one or more plants using the HFLP format.”

[Guthrie]

On the 12th:

Press Release Source: HyPower Fuel Inc.

HyPower Fuel Releases Details on Ultra-Green Biodiesel Process and HyPower Fuel Limited Partnership Format
Wednesday March 12, 11:03 am ET

WILMINGTON, Del.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--HyPower Fuel Inc. (Pinksheets: HYPF - News) is pleased to release details on its newly acquired ultra-green biodiesel process for the North American market.

Mr. Douglas Bender, President of HyPower Fuel, reports that “we firmly believe that our biodiesel process is the world’s most cost-effective and environmentally friendly method of producing biodiesel. Our process uses no water and virtually no hazardous chemicals other than methanol, which is a common denominator in any biodiesel process. Due to the fact that we use no chemicals in pre-treatment, we do not have any phosphates or sulfates which have to be removed. Having no pre-treatment and post-treatment dramatically reduces our input and operating costs. In addition, our reaction time from feedstock to a biodiesel product meeting ASTM standards is approximately two hours. These are all major improvements over conventional biodiesel technologies.”

Doug Bender went on to say that “our small scale biodiesel plant has been a virtual gold mine in providing a Proof of Technology and in displaying how the process works to interested parties. All visitors who have seen the plant in operation have been extremely impressed and we are now fielding proposals for use of our technology within the HyPower Fuels Limited Partnership (HFLP) format that we have developed. Essentially the HFLP format is a joint venture that provides for HyPower to provide the technology and technical expertise in return for a 50% ownership of biodiesel plants built using our “best in class” technology. The remaining 50% would be owned by our funding partner. Each plant built under the HFLP format would provide a positive revenue stream to HyPower in terms of royalties, technical fees, construction fees and operating profits. We have received a number of expressions of interest from major entities wishing to be a partner for one or more plants using the HFLP format.”

This one has a little bit of substance because it has some details to it but nothing we can verify as hard facts. It's all awesome if it's true.
Nice bullish pendant forming, hopefully MMs were just holding it back today and this PR will send us flying. Otherwise, it means people are seeing through the fluff and we probably won't move until a PR of substance comes out.

[Weirdharold]

IMHO

HyPower to provide the technology and technical expertise in return for a 50% ownership of biodiesel plants built using our “best in class” technology.[?!]

For the life of me I can not see this! Money Rules! Who in their right mind would fund the construction of a plant fund the cost of production runs and give up 50%?:rotfl: He might have gotten me to believe with 10% maybe stretch it to 25% but half?:O

[Disqplay]

I find it hard also to believe 50% but could this be 50% after the company building the plant has recouped it's monies invested in the building of the plant?

With the technology provided if the overall cost of production is less and the price of Bio-desiel still remaining high this 50% number may not be a bad as it seems. Consider if you have recouped the building cost plus the operating cost and only provide 50% of the remaining monies this could in fact be a small amount of money.

Or if they are a partner would they not also have to share in the cost of operation of the plant and therefore this amount shrinks even further. I agree no one will give you 50% of the profit for your doing nothing so I do think this is a strecht of the imagination.

Disq

[Theboundbook]

From the 19th of this month:

HyPower Fuel Inc. (Pinksheets: HYPF) is pleased to announce that they have retained the services of a number of European scientists who are experts in the chemistry of biodiesel production from multiple feedstocks. Mr. Doug Bender enthusiastically stated that "our biodiesel process was state of the art before we retained the services of these experts. Now, with their input and knowledge over the past two weeks, we have greatly increased the value of our process by decreasing our standard operating costs while increasing the product revenue stream."

Mr. Bender went on to explain that "the most significant benefits of their involvement have been the achievement of a biodiesel product which we are confident will meet ASTM standards. We have now achieved an inexpensive recovery of methanol for reuse while creating a glycerin by-product of our process which is now approximately 94% pure directly from the reactor. This level of purity allows for simple distillation to achieve a medical grade of glycerin for resale. We had not factored in the resale of medical grade glycerin into our business model or our profit projections. The inclusion of this new development spells greater returns on the capital employed."

About the HyPower Biofuel Process

The HyPower Biofuel process is a cutting edge biodiesel technology that has a number of competitive advantages over conventional biodiesel production methods. The HyPower process uses essentially no catalysts or water to produce biodiesel. All inputs are recovered or converted to saleable products. The capital and environmental footprints of the process should be at least 50% less than conventional means of biodiesel production.

About HyPower Fuel Inc.

HyPower Fuel, Inc. is a category leading company in the energy technology sector, focusing on providing innovative, clean alternative energies through unique methods. Currently HyPower has hydrogen insertion and production technologies and biodiesel production technologies in development and/or in the product commercialization stage. For more information please visit: www.hypowerfuel.com

Safe Harbor

This press release shall not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation of an offer to buy securities of INCA Designs, Inc. Certain statements in this release and other written or oral statements made by or on behalf of the Company are "forward looking statements" within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Statements regarding future events and developments and our future performance, as well as management's expectations, beliefs, plans, estimates or projections relating to the future are forward-looking statements within the meaning of these laws. The forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties including market acceptance of the Company's services and projects and the Company's continued access to capital and other risks and uncertainties. The actual results the Company achieves may differ materially from any forward-looking statements due to such risks and uncertainties. These statements are based on our current expectations and speak only as of the date of such statements. The Company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of future events, new information or otherwise.



Looks like I was right on about the new bottom at .08. Been hanging here for a month or so...... Trading has slowed down substantially, but interest is still there and the stock has proved its worth at .08 by not moving downward.

So, it appears and as for me, I am gonna hold and wait for the next step toward them changing the way the world uses fuels, creates em, and what they give off as emissions....

I look forward to this year's developments.