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Old 03-18-2008, 02:43 PM
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Default Feds Screw Up Again

While investors were set on a huge rally and looking at a full 1 point cut the feds cut by .75. Now the selloff has started and the dow has dropped over 100 points since the announcement.

People are disappointed and scared and instead of delivering the goverment throws us a bone. I know they are worried about inflation but with our economy in this shape we won't last long enough for inflation to bother us.

I'm ticked off and still asking do they still not realize whats going on?
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From 2:30 till now I see it up over 100?
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From 2:30 till now I see it up over 100?
Its bounced back now. It lost over 100 points in about 15 minutes after the announcement.

I take it back... maybe it will work but I still think a full 1 point would have been better. I know some will scream about inflation but thats not whats going to eat our lunch.

Hopefully this will give us a boost even if its temporary
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I think the fed is worried about what happens when the interest rate hits zerio and they cannot lower it anymore.

There are already people warning about a carry trade being considered against the USD if it's interest rate drops. That could trigger a large run on the dollar and set off a new crisis.

Also, I was reading about the interest and currency derivatives banks have. There's like hundreds of trillions worth of insurance against currency and interest rate swings.(See other thread). If that's true and they get called it could collapse something, possibly overseas. Who really knows.

As the fed gets closer to zero it's gun is running out of bullets for these failures. I think right now it's saving ammunition for the next bank failure.

I don't think they care about inflation right now, though obviously that's a problem too. Remember everytime the USD drops, oil spikes and airlines get closer to folding.

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Airlines etc matter for banking because they're barely above water, inefficiently structured, getting swallowed alive by costs and a lack of ability to raise costs without further losing customers. They're also heavily debt laden. They not only owe billions to banks that are desperate for cash, but the banks probably have credit derivative (insurance) on default of those loans. Which means if an airline can't pay or goes bankrupt, a bank is going to take both a loan write off and default insurance losses in the billions, and be looking at the airline like maybe it wants to liquidate it.

NWA doesn't like $105 oil

If they're complaining about 105 oil imagine when it hits 120+.

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I think that this "passage/quote" say it all ;))
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Ben Bernanke, Greenspan's successor, is like the man with a dustpan and brush, trying to clean up a mountain of excrement. By slashing interest rates, he hopes to bail out reckless banks and over-stretched homeowners.
The trouble is, in doing so he is shredding the dollar. As the greenback falls, inflationary pressures will return to further destabilize the US economy. Worse still, large holders of dollars, such as China, will want to dump at least part of their stockpile to protect value.
it will be cheaper for me to come to America....
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by the way here is the full article....
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Exposed: myth of the Fed's serial bubble-blower
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Oddly, the USD is gaining strength AFTER the cut.....because it wasn't the 1% expected? BAH! This whole system is so screwed up and keeps moving futher from logic and science. The dollar is cheaper by the cut but it moves up in value? WTH?

Look at gold for crying out loud! Bad for me, as I shifted a majority of my funds to gold type investments the past few weeks....it comes tumbling down. ARRRRGGGGGG I about ready to just convert EVERYTHING into cash as this market is just completely out of hand across the board.
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Look at gold for crying out loud! Bad for me, as I shifted a majority of my funds to gold type investments the past few weeks....it comes tumbling down. ARRRRGGGGGG I about ready to just convert EVERYTHING into cash as this market is just completely out of hand across the board.
badthad you took the wrong "road".....

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BadThad joking apart IMO gold will go down but I believe it will be above the 1000 again (not too distant future) I am ready to get in on options again…. just waiting to see if it hold above the 900 but if it break it and fall into the 850 and volume going up on shares …. bye bye gold…..

I might be wrong but I don’t think we are there yet….. still some bad news to come.. and money will be back in gold
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http://www.stockmarketcats.com/showt...?t=348&page=36

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Gold prices have come under heavy selling pressure over the past two sessions after the Federal Reserve cut rates less than market had expected,
boosting the U.S. dollar and reducing gold's appeal as an alternative investment.
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I'm not worried, just mad at how dumb it all is, afterall, the dollar is worth LESS after a rate cut. Gold will be back and it will set another record high, all in due time.
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