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Old 10-12-2009, 11:41 AM
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Gold since the beginning of recorded time has been viewed as the one true currency. Ancient civilizations such as the Egyptians, Persians, Babylonians, Greeks, and Romans all had gold as the one true currency in their monetary systems. While fiat money systems have come and gone gold has stood the test of time. Even Christopher Columbus was seeking to trade for gold when he founded the new world. Why was gold so heavily sought after? What is so special about this metal that men are willing to die for it and economies collapse when they leave it as the standard.


In 2000 when the technology bubble burst and the birth of a new bear market began gold was trading under $300 an ounce. The Federal Reserve Bank, then lead by Alan Greenspan, began to lower interest rates and gold began to rise. Even as the stock market seemed to recover in 2003 gold continued to move higher trading around $400 an ounce. As the housing market boom began gold just kept moving higher and has never stopped. It seems gold was signaling to world that another bubble and bust was in the making. In 2007, when the next great phase or perhaps the second bear campaign was beginning gold traded at just over 1000 an ounce. This metal or so called currency was up over 300 percent since Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan began lowering the Fed funds rate to 1 percent and giving birth to the housing boom. Could another bubble be in the making? Could this be a repeat of the recent past (2000-2007) as the current Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben Bernanke has lowered rates to zero and gold has soared to new all-time highs trading at $1049 an ounce as of the close on October 9th 2009? This time, however, the housing market has not reacted as it did in 2002-2003 and the unemployment picture is much different this time around as well.


Where does the U.S. Dollar fit into this picture? The dollar has steadily declined since the 2000 stock market bust. It is now very close to it's 2008 low again when oil traded as high as $147 a barrel. Currently oil is traded around $72 a barrel and has been very volatile since it's recent peak of $89 a barrel. Is it possible that the market is still fighting a deflationary picture? Everywhere we turn we hear about the inflationary scenario being painted in the media. Perhaps the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve bank would actually prefer inflation and are actually trying to create it. If inflation takes over then the Federal Reserve Bank could simply raise interest rates to solve the problem. Can the world survive another dose of the same remedy that Alan Greenspan prescribed in 2001? What if this is not even the same illness?


What if this is a fight against deflation? Japan is still fighting deflation from the late 1980's. At the peak of the Japanese economy the Nikkei stock market index was trading near 40,000 and today it is at 10,000. It was even lower before the recent global coordinated stimulus plan and has never even retraced 50 percent of what it lost since the late 80's decline. Please understand that that was 20 years ago since their deflationary economic spiral began. The one thing that probably saved the Japanese people from a much worst personal economic environment was that they had a high savings rate and very low debt. This is something that the people in the United States do not have. They simply have the opposite. They have very little savings and are drowning in debt. On top of that they have a government that tells them to go out and spend too.


So while we hear about the great recovery that is taking place all over the world our friend gold is telling us a different story. Yes, gold could be due for a pullback in the near term as it is getting very crowded with speculators at it's new all-time trading high price. However, it is signaling the warning signs of something that is not healthy with this new stimulus, bailout, or whatever else you want to title it. Whether it is inflation or deflation that is on the horizon gold is telling us to watch out.

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If you look at the 20+ year chart for gold you see nothing is different. It has risen steadily for a long, long time and it will continue to do so. It's been telling us that the fiat system is garbage and held up like the first two little pigs houses. Eventually, the wolf is going to blow hard enough to send it down, it's just a matter of time IMO.
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Gold however rose as investors deperately looked for alternate investment options other than the weak dollar. Darren Heathcote, head of trading at Investec Bank Ltd. in Sydney, said: "There are long positions building up. There’s a pretty good reason for it as we continue to see the U.S. dollar weaken daily. The market is becoming more comfortable with diversification and more people are looking to get gold.”


Gold for December delivery rose 0.3 percent to 1,067.25 an ounce.
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There is a lot of money looking for a place to go. Commodities will rise as our currency goes down. To get our currency to go up we need job creation and debt reduction. Currency backed by gold created depressions.
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