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Old 09-06-2008, 10:41 AM
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U.S. to take control of Fannie and Freddie: reports
Saturday September 6, 1:04 am ET
By Glenn Somerville and Al Yoon

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. government plans to put government sponsored mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae (NYSE:FNM - News) and Freddie Mac (NYSE:FRE - News) under federal control, the New York Times and Washington Post newspapers reported late Friday, in what could be the largest financial bailout in the nation's history.

The two government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) own or guarantee almost half of the country's $12 trillion in outstanding home mortgage debt.

The Wall Street Journal reported earlier on Friday that the U.S. Treasury Department is close to finalizing a plan to restructure the two companies that includes changes to their senior management.

The plan could be announced as early as this weekend, the Journal said.

U.S. Treasury spokeswoman Brookly McLaughlin declined to comment on the Journal report on Friday. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac spokesmen also declined to comment. The Federal Reserve, which earlier this year gave both companies the right to borrow from its discount window if necessary, declined comment also.

The two firms would be placed in "conservatorship," the Washington Post said, citing sources familiar with the discussions.

The value of the company's common stock would be diluted but not wiped out, while the holdings of other securities, including company debt and preferred shares, would be protected by the government, the Washington Post said.

Senior Bush administration and Federal Reserve officials called in top executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on Friday and told them that the government was preparing to place the two companies under federal control, officials and company executives told the New York Times.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson were present at meetings with James Lockhart, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, the regulator of the two companies, and with Fannie Mae CEO Daniel Mudd and Freddie Mac CEO Richard Syron on Friday, Reuters can confirm. There were separate meetings with the two CEOs.

The executives were told they and their boards would be replaced and shareholders value diluted, but the companies would be able to continue functioning with the government generally standing behind their debt, the New York Times said.

Daniel H. Mudd, chief executive of Fannie Mae, and Richard Syron, his counterpart at Freddie Mac, are expected to step down from their posts eventually, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Earlier, McLaughlin had told Reuters the department was "making progress on our work" with Morgan Stanley, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and the U.S. Federal Reserve.

The U.S. Treasury had hired Morgan Stanley on August 5 to advise it on whether the companies were adequately capitalized and help it determine how it would use its new powers to support the GSEs.

An emergency plan approved by Congress in late July gave Treasury the authority to offer an undetermined amount of credit to the two companies, or take an equity stake in them if they ran into trouble. The housing legislation signed into law by President George W. Bush in July requires the companies agree to a Treasury backstop.

Shares of the two government sponsored enterprises (GSEs)have plunged about 80 percent since mid-May this year as the U.S. housing market slump resulted in the two companies reporting about $14 billion in losses in the past four quarters, eroding some of their capital.

"People have priced in an equity infusion that would wipe out shareholders," said Chuck Gabriel, managing director at Washington-based consultants Capital Alpha Partners. "On the other hand, they have come to understand you wouldn't have such an event without the GSEs agreeing to it."

Financial markets have come to expect that an investment by the U.S. Treasury would explicitly back the companies' $1.6 trillion in debt, but leave their shares nearly valueless.

The Wall Street Journal, citing people familiar with the matter, said the plan was expected to involve the creative use of authority the Treasury won from the U.S. Congress to pump capital into the two government-sponsored enterprises if it believed it was necessary.

Instead of giving each company a big capital infusion up front, the government plans to make quarterly infusions as the companies' losses warrant, sources told the Washington Post late Friday. This would be an attempt to minimize the initial cost of the rescue, the paper said.

Shares of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which had rebounded since August 21 on speculation a government intervention might be averted, plunged in after-hours trading in New York on Friday.

Fannie Mae stock fell 16.9 percent to $5.85, while Freddie's shares declined 7 percent to $4.74.

Analysts at Citigroup, Merrill Lynch, and Goldman Sachs since mid-August have issued reports saying the companies had plenty of capital to operate for the near term, and both companies have successfully rolled over debt on schedule in the meantime. Yield spread premiums on the companies' senior debt narrowed as traders bet government funding would cut their risks.

However, the major credit rating companies since August 22 all cut their ratings on preferred stock of the two GSEs on expectations that the share price declines had cut access to capital, increasing the need for emergency financial support.

The companies never lost their access to capital markets where they raise money to support the U.S. housing market, but the biggest buyers of the debt have grown more cautious.

Foreign central banks reduced their holdings of "federal agency" debt in custody at the Federal Reserve in the past week for the seventh week in a row.

Russia has continued reducing its holdings of agency debt, Alexei Ulyukayev, first deputy chairman of Russia's central bank, said on Friday.

The U.S. Congress created Fannie Mae as a government agency in 1938, during the Great Depression, to buy government-insured mortgages from lenders, providing them fresh money to make more loans.

Fannie continued to function as a government-run agency during the 1940s and 1950s, even as it took steps toward privatization. In 1968, President Lyndon Johnson decided to turn Fannie into a shareholder-owned company.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:25 AM
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Klipper

I feel for any current shareholders of these 2 stocks-the dilution is going to look like TMA IMO. I made a lot of money (over $11,000) on FNM this past year playing the bounce, but stopped back in late April when it turned south and I felt like I had cashed at that ATM enough times without getting burned. For the mortgage business, this is real scary, with as much paper as these 2 companies are holding, and the track record of the FED in running any business-it could be a real rocky road for the last quarter and into next year

Watching with interest
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WOW.... I sold both of these Friday, on advise from BadThad.
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This is going to be a blood bath. The killer statement is:

This is no bailout, particularly for the shareholders,'' Frank said. The federal government ``will be senior to all shareholders, preferred and common.''

Shorts win the big one here
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Doing a little reading of the many articles out tonight. This one caught my attention.

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Under the plan, the government will own 80% of the two companies, leaving common stock holders with the remaining 20%, or one-fifth of what they owned on Friday.

Fannie and Freddie Likely to Plunge, Searing Investors - WSJ.com
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Things may be bad for FNM & FRE but with that said what are some plays that could benefit from this take over?

3 come to mind but I may be wrong.

ABK

PMI

RDN

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Premarket has been all over the map before it even officially starts.

FRE @ 1.51 x 1.70

FNM @ 1.60 x 1.74

This could change because at one point this morning the bid was down to 1.01.

Its going to be ugly........
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Old 09-08-2008, 10:34 AM
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ok... call me crazy but I just took 500 shares @ .90 (EDIT) FRE that is

Why? I have no clue but hopefully if I tuck them away someday they will be worth 2.00........
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ok... call me crazy but I just took 500 shares @ .90 (EDIT) FRE that is

Why? I have no clue but hopefully if I tuck them away someday they will be worth 2.00........
Call me crazier but I also picked up FNM just now @ 1.04


This is a pure lottery play. The odds are just as good this goes to .50 as 1.50 but hey its only money
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